[Tom.m]

Isn't really 45000 panels, I'm not that silly. 

[Smurf]

You little devil 
Anyhow I'm sure solar steve will give you loads of good advice if you pay to attend his course.

[Rich Wilts]

Isn't really 45000 panels, I'm not that silly. 

 

Brilliant!

[Jamie Thomas]

CHUM BUCKET the reason people have to rely on the usual ciu the ones your having a dig at is because solar Steve never gives advice to help any one else accept to say how dangerous they are and we all need to do his course, or in this thread how good he is and the only guy in the country that can clean them. Steve i think you will find most people on here are no aggroed at what you have or are trying to achieve but your attitude to the rest of the human race.

[ChumBucket]

CHUM BUCKET the reason people have to rely on the usual ciu the ones your having a dig at is because solar Steve never gives advice to help any one else accept to say how dangerous they are and we all need to do his course, or in this thread how good he is and the only guy in the country that can clean them. Steve i think you will find most people on here are no aggroed at what you have or are trying to achieve but your attitude to the rest of the human race.

Jamie (lad)

I've been on here over 10 years mate, I also wouldn't be handing out free advice in Solar Steve's position either- It's business and not in his best interest business wise to hand out that info which he has spent hundreds of hours researching and compiling.
 Most, including myself, will hand over advice willingly to anyone who needs it regarding general window cleaning issues but if I was in Steve's shoes I'd be doing just as he does also and so would anyone else with half a brain. If you genuinely don't understand why this is fair enough but if you're on the band wagon of the "green with envy crew" then you really should take a step back.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

CHUM BUCKET the reason people have to rely on the usual ciu the ones your having a dig at is because solar Steve never gives advice to help any one else accept to say how dangerous they are and we all need to do his course, or in this thread how good he is and the only guy in the country that can clean them. Steve i think you will find most people on here are no aggroed at what you have or are trying to achieve but your attitude to the rest of the human race.

Jamie (lad)

I've been on here over 10 years mate, I also wouldn't be handing out free advice in Solar Steve's position either- It's business and not in his best interest business wise to hand out that info which he has spent hundreds of hours researching and compiling.
 Most, including myself, will hand over advice willingly to anyone who needs it regarding general window cleaning issues but if I was in Steve's shoes I'd be doing just as he does also and so would anyone else with half a brain. If you genuinely don't understand why this is fair enough but if you're on the band wagon of the "green with envy crew" then you really should take a step back.

got to agree here ,

[Smurf]

Some are just not willing to give there trade secrets away when they can still make money off the backs of others you mean?
Well they might give some secrets away at a price 

[Jamie Thomas]

Chum bucket iv got gran kid going to secondary this year so I'm a bit old to be a lad. As for Steve I don't care about him getting on. Iv seen people on here asking basic questions about safety and he never pipe's up all it ever is is how good am I. I'm sure with his wealth of knowledge some of that must have come from free advice.

[telfordwindowclnr]

Well apparently they've been using a company based up north that didn't pay they're hotel bill last time.

They'd like to use us because we're ten minutes down the road.

This is the biggest reason that this thread is not a wind up. Quarter light and Smurf, don't be guillible guys! This was a genuine enquiry from Tom.
Why make this up about another company if his enquiry was just a wind up?
Tom, I found you out mate. I know too many people in this industry, so today I made one single call and I know your enquiry is genuine. You know it as well as I.

So you seem to have done of two things here:

1. You lied and wasted genuine people's time. (I don't believe this is true.)

2. You made a genuine thread and realised it was not going as you hoped. It was going fine until I piped up and said I had been asked to price the same job. Then you realised you were getting advice from me and a number of others which made you reconsider. The best thing to do in your mind is to say it was a wind up. WRONG! I am 90% sure from my phone call today that you have had the enquiry and this thread was set up as a result.

Either way, it doesn't paint you in the best light mate.

Cue the fireworks. 

[Jamie Thomas]

Chum bucket I rest my case read Steve's post above this  leader in the industry only got to make one call
wasting peoples time I and others giving you advice iv read the whole thread from beginning to end he gave no advice just blowing his on trumpet in every post.

[Smurf]

I just love reading solar panel cleaning threads on any forums as seems to always ends up in an argument and people getting pis8ed off with solar steve for some strange reason. I wonder why that is? 

[telfordwindowclnr]

Chum bucket I rest my case read Steve's post above this  leader in the industry only got to make one call
wasting peoples time I and others giving you advice iv read the whole thread from beginning to end he gave no advice just blowing his on trumpet in every post.

What advice would you want me to have provided?

[telfordwindowclnr]

I just love reading solar panel cleaning threads on any forums as seems to always ends up in an argument and people getting pis8ed off with solar steve for some strange reason. I wonder why that is? 

I've no idea! I'd love to know the webpage stats for this website. What is the average thread views for window cleaning topics as opposed to solar ones? Someone out there on admin must know.
Most of the threads get blocked too. It's bonkers to block the threads which bring the most repeat traffic.

I don't know what I do to annoy people except not provide free advice. I'm a businessman, not the Citizens Advice Bureau of the solar world. 

[8weekly]

CHUM BUCKET the reason people have to rely on the usual ciu the ones your having a dig at is because solar Steve never gives advice to help any one else accept to say how dangerous they are and we all need to do his course, or in this thread how good he is and the only guy in the country that can clean them. Steve i think you will find most people on here are no aggroed at what you have or are trying to achieve but your attitude to the rest of the human race.

Jamie (lad)

I've been on here over 10 years mate, I also wouldn't be handing out free advice in Solar Steve's position either- It's business and not in his best interest business wise to hand out that info which he has spent hundreds of hours researching and compiling.
 Most, including myself, will hand over advice willingly to anyone who needs it regarding general window cleaning issues but if I was in Steve's shoes I'd be doing just as he does also and so would anyone else with half a brain. If you genuinely don't understand why this is fair enough but if you're on the band wagon of the "green with envy crew" then you really should take a step back.

Except that he claims that there are serious H&S issues around solar panels yet two years ago or less he uploaded a video of him cleaning solar panels in trainers & jeans and no gloves. It's just a quick scrub with a water fed pole. No "black art" involved.

Fair play to him for his website though which obviously generates lots of solid enquiries. It's well put together and professional.

[telfordwindowclnr]

Anyway, why has this thread turned to me and not the guy who, by his own admission, lied to everyone in the first place?

[KS Cleaning]

Well apparently they've been using a company based up north that didn't pay they're hotel bill last time.

They'd like to use us because we're ten minutes down the road.

This is the biggest reason that this thread is not a wind up. Quarter light and Smurf, don't be guillible guys! This was a genuine enquiry from Tom.
Why make this up about another company if his enquiry was just a wind up?
Tom, I found you out mate. I know too many people in this industry, so today I made one single call and I know your enquiry is genuine. You know it as well as I.

So you seem to have done of two things here:

1. You lied and wasted genuine people's time. (I don't believe this is true.)

2. You made a genuine thread and realised it was not going as you hoped. It was going fine until I piped up and said I had been asked to price the same job. Then you realised you were getting advice from me and a number of others which made you reconsider. The best thing to do in your mind is to say it was a wind up. WRONG! I am 90% sure from my phone call today that you have had the enquiry and this thread was set up as a result.

Either way, it doesn't paint you in the best light mate.

Cue the fireworks. 

How does it not paint him in the best light? I have read the thread and what I get from it is that he has been asked to quote for a solar panel job, he has seeked advice on here which he has got, then you come on and say you have been asked to quote the same job, he then kids on it isn't 45 000 panels to try to keep you of the scent. The only mistake he has made is forgetting you are mr big balls and just a phone call from you as you know it all, is all it takes for you to find out what is happening in the solar panel cleaning sector.

[TomSE]

I had read that when he (Tom.M) had posted..

'Isn't really 45,000 panels, I'm not that silly'

He was joking? I may have got it completely wrong but it just sounded to me as if he realised theres a few other quotes and he may not get it and so made a joke of it?

Just my reading into it.

[tlwcs]

Well apparently they've been using a company based up north that didn't pay they're hotel bill last time.

They'd like to use us because we're ten minutes down the road.

This is the biggest reason that this thread is not a wind up. Quarter light and Smurf, don't be guillible guys! This was a genuine enquiry from Tom.
Why make this up about another company if his enquiry was just a wind up?
Tom, I found you out mate. I know too many people in this industry, so today I made one single call and I know your enquiry is genuine. You know it as well as I.

So you seem to have done of two things here:

1. You lied and wasted genuine people's time. (I don't believe this is true.)

2. You made a genuine thread and realised it was not going as you hoped. It was going fine until I piped up and said I had been asked to price the same job. Then you realised you were getting advice from me and a number of others which made you reconsider. The best thing to do in your mind is to say it was a wind up. WRONG! I am 90% sure from my phone call today that you have had the enquiry and this thread was set up as a result.

Either way, it doesn't paint you in the best light mate.

Cue the fireworks. 

How does it not paint him in the best light? I have read the thread and what I get from it is that he has been asked to quote for a solar panel job, he has seeked advice on here which he has got, then you come on and say you have been asked to quote the same job, he then kids on it isn't 45 000 panels to try to keep you of the scent. The only mistake he has made is forgetting you are mr big balls and just a phone call from you as you know it all, is all it takes for you to find out what is happening in the solar panel cleaning sector.

Love it

[Don Kee]

I just love reading solar panel cleaning threads on any forums as seems to always ends up in an argument and people getting pis8ed off with solar steve for some strange reason. I wonder why that is? 

I've no idea! I'd love to know the webpage stats for this website. What is the average thread views for window cleaning topics as opposed to solar ones? Someone out there on admin must know.
Most of the threads get blocked too. It's bonkers to block the threads which bring the most repeat traffic.

I don't know what I do to annoy people except not provide free advice. I'm a businessman, not the Citizens Advice Bureau of the solar world. 

Before you start tickling your balls I think you'll find a solar thread will get traffic as theres probably one solar thread every few weeks and window cleaning thread every day...

You'll also find it turned into a 'solar steve' post as you only ever post about your 'achievements' on these every so often threads so it kind if goes hand in hand...
(btw, other people have staff mate, not actually sure why you found the need to post about it...)

Before you start with 'why does no one love me?',I actually have no gripe with you solar steve as I have no interest in sloar panel cleaning (windows just abouts pays my bills)
I was just making a point

[Tom.m]

Haha, this is funny. Not sure how this makes me such a villian.

I was asking a genuine question. Just fabricated the amount of panels as a few guys on here might be chucking in a quote.

Keeping my cards a little close to chest.