[ChumBucket]

Something to do with this Steve?

5 on tools, 4 in the office.

That's the one. I know he has subbies as well, but one person surely could deal with the admin that would be generated - two at most. But four people in a home/office?

One person? You got a be kidding me! It's perfectly justified and more to the point, profitable. We are busier than you give us credit for. There are over 60 Approved Contractors to look after too. I also have further expansion plans for the solar company too which I am currently working on. I do nothing these days but plan and implement our next moves. The girls do the rest admin-wise and the boys do the work. It's a slick operation.

I have a full time window cleaning company that I took over last year and a property cleaning company that I've had for nearly 20 years too don't forget.

I do know what I'm doing. To think that I'm running a high cost, low profit business that can be managed by one person in an office is totally absurd and shows that you obviously have no idea what I'm doing.

Tom has gone rather quiet in all of this don't you think? 😆

I think you are now beyond the scope of comprehension of the resident CIU Dragons. Breath, wasting an' all that!!

Ya gorra laugh though!!   

[8weekly]

Something to do with this Steve?

5 on tools, 4 in the office.

That's the one. I know he has subbies as well, but one person surely could deal with the admin that would be generated - two at most. But four people in a home/office?

One person? You got a be kidding me! It's perfectly justified and more to the point, profitable. We are busier than you give us credit for. There are over 60 Approved Contractors to look after too. I also have further expansion plans for the solar company too which I am currently working on. I do nothing these days but plan and implement our next moves. The girls do the rest admin-wise and the boys do the work. It's a slick operation.

I have a full time window cleaning company that I took over last year and a property cleaning company that I've had for nearly 20 years too don't forget.

I do know what I'm doing. To think that I'm running a high cost, low profit business that can be managed by one person in an office is totally absurd and shows that you obviously have no idea what I'm doing.

Tom has gone rather quiet in all of this don't you think? 😆

No one asked you but you told us all your headcount. So is it not 5 on tools and 4 in the office?  All these businesses but only (currently) 4 on the tools. That's what you said, but now you're wriggling because you can see it makes no sense. Are they still all in your house working? 

[deeege]

Something to do with this Steve?

5 on tools, 4 in the office.

That's the one. I know he has subbies as well, but one person surely could deal with the admin that would be generated - two at most. But four people in a home/office?

One person? You got a be kidding me! It's perfectly justified and more to the point, profitable. We are busier than you give us credit for. There are over 60 Approved Contractors to look after too. I also have further expansion plans for the solar company too which I am currently working on. I do nothing these days but plan and implement our next moves. The girls do the rest admin-wise and the boys do the work. It's a slick operation.

I have a full time window cleaning company that I took over last year and a property cleaning company that I've had for nearly 20 years too don't forget.

I do know what I'm doing. To think that I'm running a high cost, low profit business that can be managed by one person in an office is totally absurd and shows that you obviously have no idea what I'm doing.

Tom has gone rather quiet in all of this don't you think? 😆

No one asked you but you told us all your headcount. So is it not 5 on tools and 4 in the office?  All these businesses but only (currently) 4 on the tools. That's what you said, but now you're wriggling because you can see it makes no sense. Are they still all in your house working?

Imagine, 9 staff all turning up to work in different vehicles at Steves 3 bed semi, cars and vans parked all over the street. Bet your neighbours love you Steve.

Where do you hold your weekly sales meeting? In the kitchen?

[ChumBucket]

Contractors anyone?

[8weekly]

Contractors anyone?

Yes, he has "60 approved contractors" to look after. The 9 people must be in addition.

[ChumBucket]

Contractors anyone?

Yes, he has "60 approved contractors" to look after. The 9 people must be in addition.

So if you understand that then why do you come to the conclusion that his "employment" stats are uneconomical for his business?

[Tom.m]

This is hilarious. Solar Steve thinks he's the godfather of solar. 

Sorry chaps, must go....panels to clean. 

[deeege]

Contractors anyone?

Keep up Chummy. He has 9 staff aswell as his 60 or so approved contractors.

  indeed

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

ok guys let sort this out once and for all pics of willys next to your sign wrote van then we will see whos the daddy

[CleanClear]

ok guys let sort this out once and for all pics of willys next to your sign wrote van then we will see whos the daddy

I think Steve's already down as saying its not what you've got but the way you use it !!   

[Smurf]

ok guys let sort this out once and for all pics of willys next to your sign wrote van then we will see whos the daddy

 That's me out straight away then as I don't have one 

[ChumBucket]

Contractors anyone?

Keep up Chummy. He has 9 staff aswell as his 60 or so approved contractors.

  indeed

I'm fully aware of this.... so your point being??

[Smurf]

Why is this thread still going on and on beats me.
Can admin lock it down now please before it ends in tears. Ta very much

[ChumBucket]

Why is this thread still going on and on beats me.
Can admin lock it down now please before it ends in tears. Ta very much

I think it's important that some of the "big hitters" explain why they arrive at the conclusion that Solar Steve's employment stat's are uneconomical. Shouldn't be too hard a task, it is after all, a very simple question. Maybe I was correct all along and more people than we give credit for really do not understand basic business? If you're gonna slam the guy down, at least give a credible explanation of your comments.

[8weekly]

Why is this thread still going on and on beats me.
Can admin lock it down now please before it ends in tears. Ta very much

I think it's important that some of the "big hitters" explain why they arrive at the conclusion that Solar Steve's employment stat's are uneconomical. Shouldn't be too hard a task, it is after all, a very simple question. Maybe I was correct all along and more people than we give credit for really do not understand basic business? If you're gonna slam the guy down, at least give a credible explanation of your comments.

I'm not a "big hitter", but it' simple really. He's got 4 people running an office and 4 people generating revenue (allegedly). In my case we have two full time vans and one person able in 1-2 hours a week take care of payroll for 3, credit control, banking and so on. SS never mentioned the "approved contractors" until after I pointed out that it was ludicrous to have 4 in the office. But, if we include those contractors, let's say each of them does two large jobs a year (unlikely but for the sake of argument) that means someone has to book them in and pay their invoice. So 120 invoices to pay and some admin to schedule the work. I'd suggest that the one person currently doing 2 hours a week may now need to do 3 hours a week. But let's be generous and say it's 8 hours a week instead of 3. SS actually has 160 hours available in office resource if they are full time or 80 if part time. So he's paying somewhere between 10 & 20 times more than he needs to.

Add to that the obvious impracticality of having FOUR people working in a domestic residence w=every day then 4 (soon to be 5) people in and out through the day and you start to realise that it just doesn't add up.

And there I will leave it.   

[CleanClear]

Lets not forget them 60 Approved contractors will have undergone the training course , £200 each was it ? Can't remember the price. That must want some   "Administering" 

[deeege]

Contractors anyone?

Keep up Chummy. He has 9 staff aswell as his 60 or so approved contractors.

  indeed

I'm fully aware of this.... so your point being??

My point being that you tried to belittle me (rolly eyes) inferring that he won't have 9 staff in his house office because they are contractors when Steve himself says different.

If you're going to defend him and his silly exaggerations at least keep upto date with his latest tales.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Why is this thread still going on and on beats me.
Can admin lock it down now please before it ends in tears. Ta very much

I think it's important that some of the "big hitters" explain why they arrive at the conclusion that Solar Steve's employment stat's are uneconomical. Shouldn't be too hard a task, it is after all, a very simple question. Maybe I was correct all along and more people than we give credit for really do not understand basic business? If you're gonna slam the guy down, at least give a credible explanation of your comments.

I'm not a "big hitter", but it' simple really. He's got 4 people running an office and 4 people generating revenue (allegedly). In my case we have two full time vans and one person able in 1-2 hours a week take care of payroll for 3, credit control, banking and so on. SS never mentioned the "approved contractors" until after I pointed out that it was ludicrous to have 4 in the office. But, if we include those contractors, let's say each of them does two large jobs a year (unlikely but for the sake of argument) that means someone has to book them in and pay their invoice. So 120 invoices to pay and some admin to schedule the work. I'd suggest that the one person currently doing 2 hours a week may now need to do 3 hours a week. But let's be generous and say it's 8 hours a week instead of 3. SS actually has 160 hours available in office resource if they are full time or 80 if part time. So he's paying somewhere between 10 & 20 times more than he needs to.

Add to that the obvious impracticality of having FOUR people working in a domestic residence w=every day then 4 (soon to be 5) people in and out through the day and you start to realise that it just doesn't add up.

And there I will leave it.   

maybe there ringing around getting work this seems likely now your going to say three is to many because your staff this  your staff that

look at oakpark cleaning or oakpark  security here in Essex these guys a five permernt staff just sat in a office ringing around building there business one is for night time , yes you can ring them up 24 hours aday a book a window clean even at 3am

[Jamie Thomas]

This is my last post in this thread. I have not knocked solar steves business sense of that I don't care. The feller comes on here belittles people tells everyone he is the chosen one. Helps no one as stated early people have asked basic safety issues and he never replys, which says to me a person would let someone fry rather than tell them the right way that's not giving away a major business seret thats just being desent. Thats what a forum of this type is about surely. If any one wants to jump to defend that type of attitude Then post away but if your a guy and shave in the morning remember you got to look at your self in the mirror.

[ChumBucket]

Contractors anyone?

Keep up Chummy. He has 9 staff aswell as his 60 or so approved contractors.

  indeed

I'm fully aware of this.... so your point being??

My point being that you tried to belittle me (rolly eyes) inferring that he won't have 9 staff in his house office because they are contractors when Steve himself says different.

If you're going to defend him and his silly exaggerations at least keep upto date with his latest tales.

I'm not belittling you, you "clearly" still don't get it. I suggest that you yourself may wish to "catch up".

You all "think" you know how to run someone else's business better than they do- it's blatantly clear however that none of you do!