[duncan h]

So why do you comment on every Vision post. We know you don't like it. You have told us 1000 times.
 I see a title Vision. I read it because I use it and like it

[SeanK]

So why do you comment on every Vision post. We know you don't like it. You have told us 1000 times.
 I see a title Vision. I read it because I use it and like it

Because I'm not on bored on the subject, I still find it fascinating that people can be so easily duped and cant get the hang
of washing dirt of a piece of glass.
Plus some of the feedback on the product is hilarious, so long may these posts continue.

[Peter Fogwill]

A while back some in here swore by Isopropyl alcohol in the pure water, not just to stop freezing but a better clean etc etc. Is that still the case or are these people now using Vision? ?

[gary999]

So why do you comment on every Vision post. We know you don't like it. You have told us 1000 times.
 I see a title Vision. I read it because I use it and like it

Because I'm not on bored on the subject, I still find it fascinating that people can be so easily duped and cant get the hang
of washing dirt of a piece of glass.
Plus some of the feedback on the product is hilarious, so long may these posts continue.

I reckon you are being paid to advertise vision...you never shut up about it

You are the equilivant of the press bashing of ukip which only served to help  their popularity

Im onto you, you bloody miserable git

[SeanK]

So why do you comment on every Vision post. We know you don't like it. You have told us 1000 times.
 I see a title Vision. I read it because I use it and like it

Because I'm not on bored on the subject, I still find it fascinating that people can be so easily duped and cant get the hang
of washing dirt of a piece of glass.
Plus some of the feedback on the product is hilarious, so long may these posts continue.

I reckon you are being paid to advertise vision...you never shut up about it

You are the equilivant of the press bashing of ukip which only served to help  their popularity

Im onto you, you bloody miserable git

What took you so long.

[kempy]

Gary999 , interesting thought .
I think he needs help .

[Clever Forum Name]

A while back some in here swore by Isopropyl alcohol in the pure water, not just to stop freezing but a better clean etc etc. Is that still the case or are these people now using Vision? ?

I used that in 2010 and 2011 winter. Shine on leaded windows was unreal.

[AuRavelling79]

A while back some in here swore by Isopropyl alcohol in the pure water, not just to stop freezing but a better clean etc etc. Is that still the case or are these people now using Vision? ?

I used that in 2010 and 2011 winter. Shine on leaded windows was unreal.

So why don't you use it now?

@Gerard again - what didn't your customer like about you using vision?

[Clever Forum Name]

A while back some in here swore by Isopropyl alcohol in the pure water, not just to stop freezing but a better clean etc etc. Is that still the case or are these people now using Vision? ?

I used that in 2010 and 2011 winter. Shine on leaded windows was unreal.

So why don't you use it now?

@Gerard again - what didn't your customer like about you using vision?

It worked out really expensive.

[Bungle]

If you don't like it, SHUT UP. Getting boring now. I use it, Its no miracle thing, but I like it better than just pure....now I am used to it

If you do like it, SHUT UP. God this vision stuff is boring 💤

[Walter Mitty]

I put some change in my water.
My customer asked me not to do that any more because they don't like change.
So I asked them to pay me with a £50 note.

[Peter Fogwill]

A while back some in here swore by Isopropyl alcohol in the pure water, not just to stop freezing but a better clean etc etc. Is that still the case or are these people now using Vision? ?

I used that in 2010 and 2011 winter. Shine on leaded windows was unreal.

So why don't you use it now?

@Gerard again - what didn't your customer like about you using vision?

It worked out really expensive.

Yes and there lies the problem.  IPA is a  popular low cost product that seems to change the make up of the water but the amount needed to make a difference in a 400L tank of pure water is not cost effective.

[8weekly]

So why do you comment on every Vision post. We know you don't like it. You have told us 1000 times.
 I see a title Vision. I read it because I use it and like it

Because I'm not on bored on the subject, I still find it fascinating that people can be so easily duped and cant get the hang
of washing dirt of a piece of glass.
Plus some of the feedback on the product is hilarious, so long may these posts continue.

I am in the unique position of finding myself in complete agreement with Sean.

[Terry_Burrows]

I can see it on the Vision website.

'As endorsed by Terry 'Turbo' Burrows - the fastest window cleaner in his own lunch-box'.


I wonder how much he's getting for that

Nothing just my thoughts

How much has this site gone down the pan ,full of keyboard warriors,run by jumped up little control freaks ,utter joke lol ,Admins psml ..lol  go (modded; no swearing please) yourself the lot of you .goodbye .

[duncan h]

I can see it on the Vision website.

'As endorsed by Terry 'Turbo' Burrows - the fastest window cleaner in his own lunch-box'.


I wonder how much he's getting for that

Nothing just my thoughts

How much has this site gone down the pan ,full of keyboard warriors,run by jumped up little control freaks ,utter joke lol ,Admins psml ..lol  go[ moderated] yourself the lot of you .goodbye .

+1
Think ill stop posting and just view. That's how forums die off

[Tom White]

A while back some in here swore by Isopropyl alcohol in the pure water, not just to stop freezing but a better clean etc etc. Is that still the case or are these people now using Vision? ?

I secretly think the folk who liked it, drank it.

[kempy]

Think the forum is dying , shame as it was good for information a few years a go .
Just shocking really .
+2 , just view

[SeanK]

So why hasn't Terry posted since 2012, was it dying back then as well ?

[AuRavelling79]

There does seem to be a lot of heavy emotional investment in Vision.

I've seen how other manufacturers and suppliers promote their products. The ones who seem to win the respect and (to them just as importantly) have a successful product with a good revenue stream - do the following:

1. Realise that service to potential buyers and customers is paramount.
2. Not get involved in emotional arguments on forums.
3. State the facts about their product and why it is good.
4. Help those who bring up concerns by answering in a professional manner.
5. Address any true concerns (I think of clamps/glue on poles being sorted and sent to buyers free or at a big discount or weight issues being refined on water saving taps) .

The ones that offer scaffolding poles for wfp or stuff that is hugely over priced and/or reduces TDS to unneeded lows soon disappear.

[concept]

If vision does what it is meant to, an easy way to market it would be images showing a clear difference of a bit of glass, split down the middle, one side regular clean, the other vision.

Simple, effective and instant.

Or, video of 2 identical houses, cleaned by the same cleaner, one 30% faster.

Basically anything to promote the claims that are made about the product.

Would negate the arguments about what it does and doesn't do.