[Mist A Bit]

Hi been reading posts on this vision stuff, thinking of giving it a try. Where do you get it from ,and how much does it cost for how ma y litres.

[DaveG]

http://jigsaw-innovations.co.uk/

[bobplum]

got mine delivered today, just tried it on my own house but will give an opinion once i get into using it full timer, probably getting the dosage right will be the key

[DB Cleaning Services]

Just got mine today,ill be adding some for tomorrow ,let you know tomoz 

[Clever Forum Name]

got mine delivered today, just tried it on my own house but will give an opinion once i get into using it full timer, probably getting the dosage right will be the key

Bob expect spotting on the first time round, after the second it goes. Does a deeper clean.

[dazmond]

it costs pennies to use it every day and it does leave a better shine and GLEAM!!i recommend 1 ml per 200L of pure.its very concentrated!

[SeanK]

Call me dumb but if pure water cleans the windows lovely with no problems and no complaints since starting wfp in 2002, what's the benefits to a window cleaner using vision?? 98% of all my windows sheet nicely using decent brushes with 4 jets, low pressure but high flow and I've had no complaints since starting and picked up at least 100 customers from other wfp-er's who really cant use wfp to save their life

It seems to be a comfort blanket for guys who don't really have faith in pure alone so for guys like ourselves its always
going to be a mystery why people would buy it.
Only wish I had thought of selling it, certainly beats scrubbing glass for a living.

[Smudger]

When the car first came out some people couldn't understand why you needed a mechanical beast when the horse and cart worked perfectly well...

Darran

[hasti]

When the car first came out some people couldn't understand why you needed a mechanical beast when the horse and cart worked perfectly well...

Darran

Nice one 

[Mike #1]

Plastic  frames go flat and loose that shiny shiny look Vision maintains and revives that shine 

[dazmond]

Call me dumb but if pure water cleans the windows lovely with no problems and no complaints since starting wfp in 2002, what's the benefits to a window cleaner using vision?? 98% of all my windows sheet nicely using decent brushes with 4 jets, low pressure but high flow and I've had no complaints since starting and picked up at least 100 customers from other wfp-er's who really cant use wfp to save their life

It seems to be a comfort blanket for guys who don't really have faith in pure alone so for guys like ourselves its always
going to be a mystery why people would buy it.
Only wish I had thought of selling it, certainly beats scrubbing glass for a living.

i used vision for 2 months sean then cleaned for a month with just pure and i noticed the frames and glass were not as shiny as when using vision.also i wash my vehicles with it and it really makes them shine more!

we re in the cleaning business.if a product can produce better results at a fair price then why not?it costs pennies to use.

also it reduces runs/drips from top rubber seals.

it certainly brings back the "zing" to plastic frames and sills that go dull from being cleaned with pure water every month or so.

the trick is to not use too much as if you do its a bit of a nightmare regarding rinsing.its very,very concentrated.

[jk999]

Windowswashed if 98% of your windows sheet then your one off the lucky ones

[Dave Willis]

Call me dumb but if pure water cleans the windows lovely with no problems and no complaints since starting wfp in 2002, what's the benefits to a window cleaner using vision?? 98% of all my windows sheet nicely using decent brushes with 4 jets, low pressure but high flow and I've had no complaints since starting and picked up at least 100 customers from other wfp-er's who really cant use wfp to save their life

It seems to be a comfort blanket for guys who don't really have faith in pure alone so for guys like ourselves its always
going to be a mystery why people would buy it.
Only wish I had thought of selling it, certainly beats scrubbing glass for a living.

i used vision for 2 months sean then cleaned for a month with just pure and i noticed the frames and glass were not as shiny as when using vision.also i wash my vehicles with it and it really makes them shine more!

we re in the cleaning business.if a product can produce better results at a fair price then why not?it costs pennies to use.

also it reduces runs/drips from top rubber seals.

it certainly brings back the "zing" to plastic frames and sills that go dull from being cleaned with pure water every month or so.

the trick is to not use too much as if you do its a bit of a nightmare regarding rinsing.its very,very concentrated.

God Dazmond they should call you Norma Jean - you're like a candle in the wind!

Hows the hot water going this week?

[ChumBucket]

Call me dumb but if pure water cleans the windows lovely with no problems and no complaints since starting wfp in 2002, what's the benefits to a window cleaner using vision?? 98% of all my windows sheet nicely using decent brushes with 4 jets, low pressure but high flow and I've had no complaints since starting and picked up at least 100 customers from other wfp-er's who really cant use wfp to save their life

It seems to be a comfort blanket for guys who don't really have faith in pure alone so for guys like ourselves its always
going to be a mystery why people would buy it.
Only wish I had thought of selling it, certainly beats scrubbing glass for a living.

i used vision for 2 months sean then cleaned for a month with just pure and i noticed the frames and glass were not as shiny as when using vision.also i wash my vehicles with it and it really makes them shine more!

we re in the cleaning business.if a product can produce better results at a fair price then why not?it costs pennies to use.

also it reduces runs/drips from top rubber seals.

it certainly brings back the "zing" to plastic frames and sills that go dull from being cleaned with pure water every month or so.

the trick is to not use too much as if you do its a bit of a nightmare regarding rinsing.its very,very concentrated.

God Dazmond they should call you Norma Jean - you're like a candle in the wind!

Hows the hot water going this week?

It's "OMG" these days Dave- get with the times innit!!

[Ian_Giles]

I've been using "Vision" for a couple of months now and have found that on windows where I've always had problems with spotting then the spotting has been either removed completely or vastly improved.
White upvc frames do not go dull as a result of being cleaned with WFP, that's down almost entirely to oxidisation from sunlight, age of the frames and location also has a bearing of course.
If your customer has bought top end frames then some of them have a plastic coating over top of the upvc and they do not oxidise or go powedery at all.
Much like the brown frames with an artificial hardwood veneer on them, UV rays will dull them over time but they are almost always good to clean.
The sudsing effect that makes bubbles on the glass is a little disconcerting at first but I'm assuming that is down to Vision lowering the surface tension of your water and by doing so will also make your water 'wetter' is, it will penetrate soiling quicker thereby meaning it should help make Wfp slightly more efficient at cleaning windows.
It may only be a marginal thing but for me it will always be part of what I use to clean windows.
I also very rarily rinse off the glass and have found no need to do any more rinsing than normal.
I do plenty of inside and out work to know that my own technique works just fine.
Its good stuff in my opinion 

[tlwcs]

Call me dumb but if pure water cleans the windows lovely with no problems and no complaints since starting wfp in 2002, what's the benefits to a window cleaner using vision?? 98% of all my windows sheet nicely using decent brushes with 4 jets, low pressure but high flow and I've had no complaints since starting and picked up at least 100 customers from other wfp-er's who really cant use wfp to save their life

It seems to be a comfort blanket for guys who don't really have faith in pure alone so for guys like ourselves its always
going to be a mystery why people would buy it.
Only wish I had thought of selling it, certainly beats scrubbing glass for a living.

i used vision for 2 months sean then cleaned for a month with just pure and i noticed the frames and glass were not as shiny as when using vision.also i wash my vehicles with it and it really makes them shine more!

we re in the cleaning business.if a product can produce better results at a fair price then why not?it costs pennies to use.

also it reduces runs/drips from top rubber seals.

it certainly brings back the "zing" to plastic frames and sills that go dull from being cleaned with pure water every month or so.

the trick is to not use too much as if you do its a bit of a nightmare regarding rinsing.its very,very concentrated.

God Dazmond they should call you Norma Jean - you're like a candle in the wind!

Hows the hot water going this week?

It's "OMG" these days Dave- get with the times innit!!

Yes Dave ffs 

[jjames]

I have used vision today for the first time and it has given me spotting where I have had no problem before. My window seals are bad so maybe it has pulled more dirt out of them, I will have to see. It does help remove bird crap though

[aztec]

i bought some and i think it makes a vast improvement especially on leaded glass and georgian frames which are two halves (sash windows) , also had a dirty line underneath and now the results actually amaze me, just bought about 3 years supply!

[duncan h]

I just like the shine

[koopmaster]

Just jumped on the bandwagon and bought 2 bottles of vision a few minutes ago. 

going to clean my 1000L tank tomorrow and fill it up and stick some in.