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SeanK

Round buyers something to think about.
« on: January 23, 2015, 12:44:46 pm »
Talking to a guy the other day who told me his mate had bought a round from a local window cleaner who was down
sizing. He needed cash for a new investment.
Checked everything out and got a few signed agreements to protect himself.
What he didn't know was that this guy had two employees who where doing this round for him and had been for a
number of years, and that he had paid these guys off.
So to keep it short the guys went out on their own and went to all the customers telling them of how their
employer had treated them and would they consider letting them continue to clean for them which most did.
So this guy has now paid for a round with almost no customers and as far as I know has no comeback.
Just something to consider if you are thinking of buying a round in the future.
 

duncan h

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2015, 01:08:22 pm »
Ask for money back or break his legs.

PoleKing

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 04:58:02 pm »
Ask for money back or break his legs.

Unless the fella who sold it was in on it. Neither would be fair.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

duncan h

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 05:02:46 pm »
Ask for money back or break his legs.

Unless the fella who sold it was in on it. Neither would be fair.
Ask for money back and don't break his legs ;D
A good think to do would be to pay after 2nd clean or something

Mike #1

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 05:33:57 pm »
I would not dream of buying any rounds from a stranger , Only guys i have known most of my life would i buy from .

SeanK

Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 06:12:23 pm »
Ask for money back or break his legs.

Unless the fella who sold it was in on it. Neither would be fair.

I don't think he was, but I do know that the two guys that he paid off had been with him a long time.
I think most of the customers on that particular round knew them well so it wasn't hard to get them to switch.
I don't know if you can blame anybody on this one just thought I would tell the story as you wouldn't consider
ex employees as a potential threat when buying a round.

kempy

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 06:36:39 pm »
I paid 50% of mine and then paid 50% after the second clean .
£550 and then another £550 mine over 2 months .

Since then ive never had to buy

Plankton

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 08:14:55 pm »
Talking to a guy the other day who told me his mate had bought a round from a local window cleaner who was down
sizing. He needed cash for a new investment.
Checked everything out and got a few signed agreements to protect himself.
What he didn't know was that this guy had two employees who where doing this round for him and had been for a
number of years, and that he had paid these guys off.
So to keep it short the guys went out on their own and went to all the customers telling them of how their
employer had treated them and would they consider letting them continue to clean for them which most did.
So this guy has now paid for a round with almost no customers and as far as I know has no comeback.
Just something to consider if you are thinking of buying a round in the future.
 
Certainly food for thought. Chap phoned me start of the week says he's a rigger to trade and the moneys that good just now that he's selling up 5k a month, said I'd be interested in 2k a month and would get back to him with a view to looking and offering. He may be gen but there's always a risk when parting with cash for a piece of paper. :-\

PoleKing

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 08:53:58 pm »
In the interests of balance. It can be difficult to sell a round too.
I bought a load of work 12 years ago on a drive by. No introduction, nothing. But I trusted the guy selling.
I sold some work recently and the guy who bought it, I trusted.
I drove him round before seeing any of his hard earned moolah.

As has been said, I wouldn't buy a round from someone i didn't know. Id be happier paying Becci or Paul Dale to get something fresh.
Then its tax deductible too.

Problem is: theres a holes on both sides of the coin. buyers and sellers. And if you don't know 'em, you don't trust 'em. If you don't trust 'em then you put your barriers up and are nervous from the start.
Theres a lot to be said in just going with your gut.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

petski2

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 08:57:28 pm »
Kempy where do you clean around Wakey?

no way Jose

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2015, 08:45:25 pm »
what kind of value an agreement put in writing really has? I would really be wary parting with thousands of pounds buying a round unless I knew the seller or had some serious guarantee about the deal.

Window Lickers

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2015, 10:08:59 am »
Fatal mistake - not going to the customers with the previous shiner and being introduced first.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

no way Jose

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2015, 10:17:25 am »
fatal and costly mistake! they pocketed the money and you are now left to pick up the pieces! that's no good is it?

Plankton

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2015, 09:14:42 pm »
Selling a days work to someone who has previously bought 1 or 2 weeks work from me. But last time it was work one clean then pay me, only some custys said the price wasn't the same which of course was they were pulling the wool over his eyes which I told him but needless to say he wanted to pay less. He wants to do the same this time but is it worth it for one days work.
I'd like to see what the person selling 5k would say to it! :o

Ian101

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Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2015, 08:36:06 am »
I bought a large round , van and equipment late 2010 off a guy that was downsizing from 5 vans / 10 lads to 2 vans / 4 lads ... the work I was buying the lads were going to get sacked - I was worried that they would set up on their own and start doing "their" customers.

Pointed my concern out to the seller and he said along lines of the lads didn't have the get up and go to go and work for themselves apart from set up costs they were not the self employed type otherwise they would have gone off and done their own things years back ... bought it and everything was fine.

chez

Re: Round buyers something to think about.
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2015, 11:22:08 am »
hey Guys.
I would only buy work if the one selling took me around the customers, knocked the door and introduced me to them. Or, if I worked with him on the round and we both collected all the money. That way you get to meet all of the custys and you can reassure yourself that the work is really legit.

Slightly off topic, I would never give work away either, because many years ago I really had too much work and a guy needed work desperately. So I went round and introduced him to all the custys, gave him a list and prices. The only condition was that there were 2 custys who had paid a couple of cleans in advance. So I said call it quits if you clean them OK? Guess what. He never did any of them, didn't even let me know either until I found out several months later.
So even if you ask a minimal price for the work it means that they are almost forced to do the work to get their money back.
Do a good deed for some and it bites you in the backside!
Chez