[richywilts]

ive got a friend whose interested in working for me ex marine and usually works on ships as security against pirates etc in africa which he does self employed but due to circumstances at the minute he is stuck at home for the foreseeable future, hes interested in working for me too keep himself busy ust wondering what sort of day rate would you give for self employed i was thinking £70-80

[Dave Willis]

And a bottle of Rum.

[paul13]

Richy if as you say this guy wants to work for you he cant be self employed.
If you want to give him cash just keep it to your self
If you want to know how much to pay someone work out a rule of thumb payment
that suits you mines is 3 or 4 times so if they make 30 to 40 an hour I pay 10 an hour.
I also use this strategy when pricing determain how long job will take price 30/40 an hour.
I find this has served me well and is simple.

[Alistair@AWC]

ive got a friend whose interested in working for me

Haven't you been here before Richy, I'm sure myself and many others have warned you about employing 'friends'!

[richywilts]

hes not a close friend just someone i know the lad i had in mind too work has changed his mind im wanting to start on 1st september so need someone in asap coz im gonna be quite busy to begin interviewing etc ive put an advert on jobcentre plus website just waiting for it to be approved, like ive said in previous post im not expecting loads from an employee this time around its more just to keep the workload going till i work out my options and can afford a larger van with bigger tank etc to deal with the workload once ive culled a few bad customers etc at the min im going to struggle as my tanks just arent big enough and id waste time going back to refill the tank 1-2 times a day

[richywilts]

i just thought the self employed route maybe ideal short term till i get my bearings

[ashbash]

Why not just get stuck in yourself work long hours for a bit and see where it takes you. If you employ expect stress and by the looks of it you could do with just earning some money. If you can't afford a tank with the amount of work you say you have then something going tits up mate

[Mick Kent]

Why not just get stuck in yourself work long hours for a bit and see where it takes you. If you employ expect stress and by the looks of it you could do with just earning some money. If you can't afford a tank with the amount of work you say you have then something going tits up mate

Lol well said, if he cant afford a tank then something is seriously wrong here??.

[Nameless Drudge]

Nothing seems to have changed,same old self indulgent ramblings with all good advice ignored.Every last tiny bit of best practice information that anyone could ever need has been offered to him.It remains included in all his previous threads so there is no need for him to be going over the same ground again.
Wait for the "how much shall I pay my office manager/new business consultant" thread.

Then the "I had a relapse,well actually I was still using but thought I could control it  and just had to deal a bit to fund my own habit",thread.

[richywilts]

ive got a spare 800 litre tank u idiots but itd be quite a job fitting it in a vauxhall combo or a citroen berlingo its a new van i cant quite afford to fit the tank into. im happy smashing the work out myself but im gonna be a bit slow to start etc and its just a bit too much work for me to do on my own i think

[tlwcs]

ive got a spare 800 litre tank u idiots but itd be quite a job fitting it in a vauxhall combo or a citroen berlingo its a new van i cant quite afford to fit the tank into. im happy smashing the work out myself but im gonna be a bit slow to start etc and its just a bit too much work for me to do on my own i think

You must have a mate Richy?

[ashbash]

well smash the work out earn some money, buy a new van if that's what you want you business to have and stop asking for daft advice and then when you receive advice call people idiots. sounds like you need to work in tescos and be told when to stack shelves.   your self employed which generally means self motivated but all you keep banging on about is employing people to do your work.   

[richywilts]

well smash the work out earn some money, buy a new van if that's what you want you business to have and stop asking for daft advice and then when you receive advice call people idiots. sounds like you need to work in tescos and be told when to stack shelves.   your self employed which generally means self motivated but all you keep banging on about is employing people to do your work.   

how do u expect me to smash out 350 quid everyday and do everything else, im still on tag at 7pm ive taken on peoples advice hence reason im not out buying new vans etc just yet im gonna get by til i can with the 2 small vans, im looking at self employed option to reduce employee costs etc paid holidays etc, pension etc etc im not employing loads people to do it for me just to help out for first few month till i find my feet and decide what i want to do, i never said i couldnt afford a tank so duno wer ya got that from trying to take the p out of me, my original question was a fair one what the going rate for a self employed person as ive always employed etc i wouldnt know

[hotsteam]

Why don't you sub out some of the work till you get sorted 

[Bob Stones]

how do u expect me to smash out 350 quid everyday and do everything else, im still on tag at 7pm

do you really think you will be out past 7 working  ? unless its in the pubs and clubs

[richywilts]

as in collecting money etc

[Crystal-clear]

Legally you can't hire his services while he is using your tools ie van etc
Hmrc are clamping Down on self employed working full time for one person ,
If you are the sole person he earns his money from and if he is using your tools
Then he isn't self employed ,

you can however employ a Subbie in simple words a window cleaner who has his own van and tools and he pays you a percentage of what he cleans pay him a percentage of what he cleans he invoices you and that's it,


A Subbie will however not work with you all the time they normally have there own jobs and they get paid more expect to pay a serious person around £150 per day but offer a percentage of work cleaned, also make sure you can pay him promptly that way he will take you seriously all the invoices is up to you to chase non payers etc

[Window Lickers]

Hire your poles out to him. A legitimate expense to him.

[richywilts]

i know hmrc are clamping down etc but u can always work round it say your rent your van etc too him and poles etc, hopefully i may have another person interested anyway i was just after input regarding day rate etc really

[Rogue Trader]

i would say that £25 and a gram of charlie should do it.