[dave0123]

i know hmrc are clamping down etc but u can always work round it say your rent your van etc too him and poles etc, hopefully i may have another person interested anyway i was just after input regarding day rate etc really

And do you think you that's legal? i doubt it your renting him your van and tools so he can do your work?? its just employment that's how they will see it.

[ashbash]

After the way you have responded its clear your a complete tool.  your reply (im on tag) says a lot. Not sure why you think I was taking the pee.  Your replys since involve breaking the law, not treating staff properly and expecting them to work hard for you. Why don't you not work it out for yourself. 

[Bob Stones]

After the way you have responded its clear your a complete tool.  your reply (im on tag) says a lot. Not sure why you think I was taking the pee.  Your replys since involve breaking the law, not treating staff properly and expecting them to work hard for you. Why don't you not work it out for yourself. 

 

[Crystal-clear]

I think you need to decide if you want an employee or a subby don't work out ways how you can beat the system cos it can come back to bite you
But end of the day all you need to do is pick up the phone And speak to hmrc
As a matter of fact There are some big firms hiring out there own vehicles,
Like taxis company's so I don't know...

I understand where you're coming from you want someone to work for you but so that you won't be responsible as an employer , and all the extra taxes and holiday pay etc
Well the only way you can do that is if you hire a self employed person with his own tools and van,

Why don't you do one of 2 things
Offer this person a 0 hour contract that way if he isn't your cup of tea
Don't give him any more hours , again speak to hmrc or your accountant if you use one for more info on this,

Hire a Subbie , to help with the harder days maybe and you personally go and work the others until you find your self in A better situation to do what you need too

If however you have the motivation or drive I think the first option is a better method to grow your business this is because you can set out hours for a full day
For example cleaning 9-3 door knocking 3-5 makes a full working day, I do say the word motivation because you can't just leave your employees alone you will need to manage them if you havnt got the drive or maybe not just now and you still want to hire then I'd stick with the 2nd option

[richywilts]

cheers crystal appreciate the comments id love to grow a larger business but just not right now im gonna have a year or two before i even think of growing larger and get stability of company right this time round before i try and grow any more, im just looking to improve the business at the moment increase prices, cull the crap customers etc, im not in two minds regarding whether to employ or not im quite happy wither way i just thought it was an option with the lad who i had in mind being self employed in his current role it maybe worthwhile keeping him self employed as it was just a short term option till he begins back on the ships doing security.

i am now looking to employ someone else who has window cleaning experience so ill be employing this person