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Alex Wingrove

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2014, 08:55:20 pm »
The last set of hose I got from Gardiner leaked chemicals into the water.

How did I know?

Because the first liter or so of water was slightly yellow, and smelled of petroleum or something similar.

Window Lickers

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2014, 09:33:01 pm »
D'you use the same hose for syphoning out fuel tanks? Cos that would explain that.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2014, 10:15:58 pm »
Haha,

Oh yeah whoops

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2014, 10:18:16 pm »
Here's a thought - my hose dry probably weighed 4kg or so,.. to get that amount of bubbles I'd imagine at least 3 or 4 grams of surfactant would be needed each day, and if its leaching out of my hose then my hose should be getting lighter right?

4 grams a day x 5 days a week = 20g

20g x 50 weeks (I'm a workaholic) = 1kg

so basically my 4 year old hose shouldn't be there at all,.. by now it should have all leached away?!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2014, 07:38:53 am »
Here's a thought - my hose dry probably weighed 4kg or so,.. to get that amount of bubbles I'd imagine at least 3 or 4 grams of surfactant would be needed each day, and if its leaching out of my hose then my hose should be getting lighter right?

4 grams a day x 5 days a week = 20g

20g x 50 weeks (I'm a workaholic) = 1kg

so basically my 4 year old hose shouldn't be there at all,.. by now it should have all leached away?!

Take a couple of litres of pure and add the smallest drop of Fairy liquid into it that you possibly can.  Shake.  Be astounded by the amount of foam.  And Fairy is only 10-15% detergent.  You don't need anything near to 3-4 grams.  Plus, it takes more than one day to build up enough to foam, so it's not five days a week.  And a four year old hose (in my experience of what happens over a couple of years) would have stopped doing it.

I also included another test on the air front, which was that when I weas filling the bottle for yesterday's experiment, I had the filling tube under the surface of the water.  No bubbles coming out, even though the pressure would have been released by then.  As it should be in an experiment, I'm trying to disprove my thesis that it's surfactant rather than air.

But then I'm a retard, so what does the evidence matter...

Vin

Window Lickers

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2014, 08:23:33 am »
It's probably bullpoop. Didn't know they put it in hoses but it sounds like it.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

gary999

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2014, 08:42:11 am »
Dont now about chemicals but it happens every time i have a loose
connector,i get the fizzing on the glass,i tighten everything up and
it stops.

Amazing it must be a miracle ;D

Perfect Windows

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2014, 05:49:07 pm »
Dont now about chemicals but it happens every time i have a loose
connector,i get the fizzing on the glass,i tighten everything up and
it stops.

Amazing it must be a miracle ;D

But the OP is talking about something completely different.  As am I.  No "fizzing".  First clean of the day for about two minutes.  Stops without tightening anything.

Vin

gary999

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2014, 06:08:14 pm »
Dont now about chemicals but it happens every time i have a loose
connector,i get the fizzing on the glass,i tighten everything up and
it stops.



Amazing it must be a miracle ;D

But the OP is talking about something completely different.  As am I.  No "fizzing".  First clean of the day for about two minutes.  Stops without tightening anything.

Vin

I meant a sudsy effect so exactly the same thing,it happens everytime
the pipe connector has come slightly loose on my backpack pump
i get a slight sudsing effect when water hits glass
i give the connector  a quick nip up and make it airtight again and
it stops. :)

8weekly

Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2014, 06:16:03 pm »
Dont now about chemicals but it happens every time i have a loose
connector,i get the fizzing on the glass,i tighten everything up and
it stops.



Amazing it must be a miracle ;D

But the OP is talking about something completely different.  As am I.  No "fizzing".  First clean of the day for about two minutes.  Stops without tightening anything.

Vin

I meant a sudsy effect so exactly the same thing,it happens everytime
the pipe connector has come slightly loose on my backpack pump
i get a slight sudsing effect when water hits glass
i give the connector  a quick nip up and make it airtight again and
it stops. :)
I get it only from the backpack which has a totally different black hose on it than the normal stuff. From about 15-45 seconds first time I use it I get a soapy substance coming out. Definitely not air bubbles. It is soapy.

gary999

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Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2014, 06:24:32 pm »
you want to clean your pack out properly then mate ;D ;D

seriously i get a effervescence that looks exactly like pures
water experiment and it only happens if the pump connector
on the intake side needs adusting.

As for the chemical idea i wouldnt have a scooby i empty my packs
every night and the backpack hose is detached from the pack so
i have nothing sitting there overnight.

chez

Re: Looks like soap bubbles but obviously not!!!
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2014, 05:51:49 pm »
Another theory.
I had some new hose I tried out. Every morning for the first few panes it would look soapy and then would go clear. And that was it fine all day until the next morning. Never left any marks and dried fine. When I changed the hose cos it got old, it never happenend again so I put it down to the type of hose. I've swapped to Gardeners all season never happened since.
Chez