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domestic bliss

  • Posts: 161
Never again!!
« on: March 31, 2006, 03:56:53 pm »
A few weeks ago i did my first marching out clean for the RAF.
Never ever will i do one again,  It has been nothing but hassle.
I cleaned the house and the oven which was all in a bit of a state and it just wasn't good enough.  I have done end of tenancy and have no problem with the standard of them customer is always happy but this paticular job the oven was so bad that i just couldn't get it any cleaner with the products i had, i even went back to clean the oven again and it just wasn't good enough.  The client on paying me deducted £10 off my fee he has now sent me a bill for an extra oven clean done by someone else.
Not doing that again not worth the hassle!!! >:(

handyali

  • Posts: 62
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 05:34:09 pm »
same here. we never touch oven cleaning - we always subcontract to an oven cleaner. we all live and learn from experience .  ;)

domestic bliss

  • Posts: 161
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 06:26:14 pm »
Yes i know what you mean handyali.  In future all of my oven cleaning will be contracted out too.

Paul Kettless

  • Posts: 221
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2006, 06:51:38 pm »
Oven cleaning is ok, and we make good money out of doing so.  The problem is that you must invest in the right equipment, ppe and chemicals for the job.

For a good industrial steam cleaner you aint gonna get change out of £400, and most of the chemicals have to be used under very controlled circumstances.

IMO, this is not the kind of job that companies should take on if they are not 100% confident of the clean, if in doubt, leave well alone.

I refuse to touch extraction units/cooker hoods as these are also well left to the experts.

Regards
Paul



Complete Cleaning "you really can tell the difference"

BSF

  • Posts: 351
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2006, 06:57:24 pm »
Oven cleaning is ok, and we make good money out of doing so. The problem is that you must invest in the right equipment, ppe and chemicals for the job.

For a good industrial steam cleaner you aint gonna get change out of £400, and most of the chemicals have to be used under very controlled circumstances.

IMO, this is not the kind of job that companies should take on if they are not 100% confident of the clean, if in doubt, leave well alone.

I refuse to touch extraction units/cooker hoods as these are also well left to the experts.

Regards
Paul





I always thought the best way to clean a cooker/oven was a caustic dip tank, loads of elbow grease and plenty of scraping, it seems to work for the companys that do it for a living ???

So is steam the way forward?

Regards

Paul
Regards

BSF

Sarah S & P Cleaning

  • Posts: 73
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2006, 07:06:22 pm »
Hi,
You poor thing i feel sorry for you the gits, ive had similar happen to me a while ago on a builders clean first it wasnt good enough and we arranged to go back and clean again which we did to a great standard then we didnt get paid because they said a bathroom floor which theyd splattered paint all over wasnt clean enough. ( my hands were red and sore from scrubbing with thinners ) Not impressed. :'(
Wouldnt it be nice if the world was full of honest people.
Sarah
S & P Cleaning Services

The £10 deduction for not managing the cooker clean id except as fair enough but the bill for the cooker clean to be done im afraid theyd have to kiss my rosey butt ;D
 
Cleaning gets me hot !!!

Derek_Walker

  • Posts: 454
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2006, 07:29:07 pm »
Hi Domestic Bliss,

Did you do a break down of the cost of cleaning the oven in your quote or was it just lumped in as part of the cost of cleaning?

If you did then this would be the only amount that should be deducted from your bill, as the rest of the clean was obviously satisfactory. I would certainly not pay this invoice over and above what you allowed for.

Derek


BSF

  • Posts: 351
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2006, 07:44:22 pm »
Hi,
You poor thing i feel sorry for you the gits, ive had similar happen to me a while ago on a builders clean first it wasnt good enough and we arranged to go back and clean again which we did to a great standard then we didnt get paid because they said a bathroom floor which theyd splattered paint all over wasnt clean enough. ( my hands were red and sore from scrubbing with thinners ) Not impressed. :'(
Wouldnt it be nice if the world was full of honest people.
Sarah
S & P Cleaning Services

The £10 deduction for not managing the cooker clean id except as fair enough but the bill for the cooker clean to be done im afraid theyd have to kiss my rosey butt ;D
 

I think they got you back because they liked the uniform :P

Bathroom floor! you didnt fall for that one did you ::)

It is a nice uniform, can you blame em ;D
Regards

BSF

handyali

  • Posts: 62
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2006, 10:03:50 pm »
yeah the uniform prob encouraged them  ;D i know our oven clean guy is excellent but it does take him a few hours to do an oven so hes welcome to it !!  ;)

Paul Kettless

  • Posts: 221
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2006, 10:20:17 am »
Oven cleaning is ok, and we make good money out of doing so. The problem is that you must invest in the right equipment, ppe and chemicals for the job.

For a good industrial steam cleaner you aint gonna get change out of £400, and most of the chemicals have to be used under very controlled circumstances.

IMO, this is not the kind of job that companies should take on if they are not 100% confident of the clean, if in doubt, leave well alone.

I refuse to touch extraction units/cooker hoods as these are also well left to the experts.

Regards
Paul





I always thought the best way to clean a cooker/oven was a caustic dip tank, loads of elbow grease and plenty of scraping, it seems to work for the companys that do it for a living ???

So is steam the way forward?

Regards

Paul

No, off course not, and I don't think that I ever said that it was.... ;) However, as a domestic and commercial cleaner if you have £2-3000 going spare, then yup your are absolutely right. 

My steamer breaks down grease and grime just fine, and used in conjunction with the right chemicals, makes the job easier.  However, I will add that I only take on jobs that I know that I can handle, domestic, guest houses, pubs etc with light to moderate build up.  Ok, so on average it takes me longer, and the proffesionals would use less harmfull and toxic chemicals.  But as you are aware there is more than one way to skin a cat.  So as long as you are comfortable with what you are doing, take the job on, if you have doubt, walk away, as I have on hotels, take-aways et al ;D
Complete Cleaning "you really can tell the difference"

Re: Never again!!
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 11:04:24 am »
...My steamer breaks down grease and grime just fine, and used in conjunction with the right chemicals, makes the job easier...

Complete Cleaning,
Do you clean ovens using your steam cleaner?  If yes could you say what model your steam cleaner is and what kind of chemicals do use with it?
Regards,
Arthur

Paul Kettless

  • Posts: 221
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2006, 11:26:30 am »
Complete Cleaning,
Do you clean ovens using your steam cleaner?  If yes could you say what model your steam cleaner is and what kind of chemicals do use with it?
Regards,
Arthur


Hi Arthur,

The steam cleaner is an Osprey Robby 3000, and yes, I use it in conjunction with oven cleaning.  The chemicals that I use are from www.cloverchemical.com and the products are Vanquish, UBIK 2000 and DD10.

It is worth mentioning that I do not apply the chemicals and use the steam cleaner at the same time, obvioulsy the power of the steamer would simply blast the chemicals all over the place. (not a good idea :o)

Therefore, the chemicals are applied, given the correct dwell time, and removed then steam is used on the lighter build ups. ie, non carbon etc.

Regards
Paul
Complete Cleaning "you really can tell the difference"

Re: Never again!!
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2006, 12:20:13 pm »
Thank you Paul  :)

ovenprince

  • Posts: 6
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2009, 01:18:36 pm »
Have you had any problems splitting doors? Some can be a right pain. I do not plit the doors for the sake of it. The time it takes and possible damage is not worth the hassel

Paul from Leicester 

The Great One

  • Posts: 12722
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2009, 04:29:59 pm »
Hi

I am having great success in cleaning grease with...

BIO logical washing Liquid.

It is about £3.00 for a large from Tesco.

Because the washing liquid contains enzymes it will literally destroy the grease. Excellent for breaking down protein based staining (meat grease, egg etc.)

I stripped a greasy extraction hood in minutes using it neat with a metal scourer, saved me ages. carbon is obviously a different matter.

Also great for the rest of the kitchen, tiles, units, sink bath & floor.

Also destroys blood, check out 'Too much Blood' in CC section.

Regards

Martin 8)

Bill1903

  • Posts: 175
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 04:35:29 pm »
Oven cleaning is ok, and we make good money out of doing so. The problem is that you must invest in the right equipment, ppe and chemicals for the job.

For a good industrial steam cleaner you aint gonna get change out of £400, and most of the chemicals have to be used under very controlled circumstances.

IMO, this is not the kind of job that companies should take on if they are not 100% confident of the clean, if in doubt, leave well alone.

I refuse to touch extraction units/cooker hoods as these are also well left to the experts.

Regards
Paul





I always thought the best way to clean a cooker/oven was a caustic dip tank, loads of elbow grease and plenty of scraping, it seems to work for the companys that do it for a living ???

So is steam the way forward?

Regards

Paul

Dont think theres many Oven Cleaners who use caustic products-or at least they dont admit to it!

Gerry Styles

  • Posts: 558
Re: Never again!!
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 05:38:10 pm »
I spent 24 years in the RAF and marched out of 11 married quarters. Would not touch them at all now
Premier Klean Limited

kenaltobelli

Re: Never again!!
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2009, 06:26:52 pm »
  wuoldnt touch forces cleans with a barge pole a lot are great people but a few sour it
  same with  builders cleanes you have to charge sky high to make up for the scum that rip you off.