[gary999]

If zero hour contracts are so good for employers why are they disliked so much by employees and unions. Disgusting way this country is going

They're not.
SOME employees dislike them. Usually the lazy ones.
And unions? Anyone in a union is a douche.
A union is run by douches to protect feckless douches.

Dirty you are talking cobblers mate! wthout the sacrifices many have
made one fighting to set up the unions in the first place and secondly
then unions fighting for freedom from what was virtual servitude, many of
us wouldnt have the freedom of choice of work that we have now.

Yes unions have made mistakes but on the whole they have been
good thing especially from where they raised the average working
slave from.

[edward1]

neil my email is     driscolleddie@yahoo.co.uk


thank you

[PoleKing]

If zero hour contracts are so good for employers why are they disliked so much by employees and unions. Disgusting way this country is going

They're not.
SOME employees dislike them. Usually the lazy ones.
And unions? Anyone in a union is a douche.
A union is run by douches to protect feckless douches.

Dirty you are talking cobblers mate! wthout the sacrifices many have
made one fighting to set up the unions in the first place and secondly
then unions fighting for freedom from what was virtual servitude, many of
us wouldnt have the freedom of choice of work that we have now.

Yes unions have made mistakes but on the whole they have been
good thing especially from where they raised the average working
slave from.

Nope.
Every single person I have ever met who is affiliated to a is either workshy, a trouble maker or a little hitler or all 3.

[Neil Jones]

I really can't understand this debate. If you don't like them then go sit on your high horse and don't use them, because your talking to a brick wall!

[gary999]

If zero hour contracts are so good for employers why are they disliked so much by employees and unions. Disgusting way this country is going

They're not.
SOME employees dislike them. Usually the lazy ones.
And unions? Anyone in a union is a douche.
A union is run by douches to protect feckless douches.

Dirty you are talking cobblers mate! wthout the sacrifices many have
made one fighting to set up the unions in the first place and secondly
then unions fighting for freedom from what was virtual servitude, many of
us wouldnt have the freedom of choice of work that we have now.

Yes unions have made mistakes but on the whole they have been
good thing especially from where they raised the average working
slave from.

Nope.
Every single person I have ever met who is affiliated to a is either workshy, a trouble maker or a little hitler or all 3.

Im not talking about individuals im talking about the overall good
labour unions have done since there inception they raised our working standards
and help give us freedom of choice,we can always go back to the ways
before with third world sweat shop standards and your kids could be
sweeping chimneys

Without these people who fought for our work freedom raising
standards conditions choice giving the working man some power i guarantee most of us wouldnt be here
moaning and being able to decide our own work futures(self employment)
the system as it stood wouldnt allow it.

Yes there are arseholes in unions but there are also many workshy
arseholes at management level and i have personally met more of
the latter over the years.

[PoleKing]

I really can't understand this debate. If you don't like them then go sit on your high horse and don't use them, because your talking to a brick wall!

Let the men talk and go back to your rocking horse, boy. 

[PoleKing]

If zero hour contracts are so good for employers why are they disliked so much by employees and unions. Disgusting way this country is going

They're not.
SOME employees dislike them. Usually the lazy ones.
And unions? Anyone in a union is a douche.
A union is run by douches to protect feckless douches.

Dirty you are talking cobblers mate! wthout the sacrifices many have
made one fighting to set up the unions in the first place and secondly
then unions fighting for freedom from what was virtual servitude, many of
us wouldnt have the freedom of choice of work that we have now.

Yes unions have made mistakes but on the whole they have been
good thing especially from where they raised the average working
slave from.

Nope.
Every single person I have ever met who is affiliated to a is either workshy, a trouble maker or a little hitler or all 3.

Im not talking about individuals im talking about the overall good
labour unions have done since there inception they raised our working standards
and help give us freedom of choice,we can always go back to the ways
before with third world sweat shop standards and your kids could be
sweeping chimneys

Without these people who fought for our work freedom raising
standards conditions choice giving the working man some power i guarantee most of us wouldnt be here
moaning and being able to decide our own work futures(self employment)
the system as it stood wouldnt allow it.

Yes there are arseholes in unions but there are also many workshy
arseholes at management level and i have personally met more of
the latter over the years.

I'm younger than you Gaz.
Not had any if that on my radar.
All the union boys I know are douches.

One tw@ I knew, been a chippie for 30 odd years.
Took a job at the college where I taught.
A year later, tries to sue the college, for million(s?), saying it gave him lung cancer from working with MDF.
Went on for ages. Made the office (not the classes) really awkward.
That's the most recent one but over the years, I've known loads of 'em.
All joinery based admittedly. Perhaps that's the reason...?

[Tom White]

For a minority of people zero contracts are spot on.  Why?  Because the employee may not have to turn up to work if they don't want to/it's not convenient.

Say someone was starting up a business and just wanted some extra pin money on the side, then a zero hour contract might be just what they're looking for.  Work when it's available, but the option not to work if they've got something on.

But if you've a family and bills to pay, a zero hour contract is probably not suitable for you.

The problem seems to be that it's an employers market and that they can play on the desperation of the desperate.

[gary999]

Dont get me wrong diry ive come across plenty of those twonks
over the years,you always get bad eggs in any organisation.

I was just talking about the overall history since the late19th
century when unions were decriminlised in this country and i know
im older than you but not that much you cheeky fecker!

[PoleKing]

Dont get me wrong diry ive come across plenty of those twonks
over the years,you always get bad eggs in any organisation.

I was just talking about the overall history since the late19th
century when unions were decriminlised in this country and i know
im older than you but not that much you cheeky fecker!

When you were working in the 19th century did they help you out of a fix? 

[PoleKing]

And not that much older?
You could be my dad

I was 32, 3 weeks ago.
Tamsin sent me out for nappies and a bottle of gin this afternoon.
I got ID'd! (For the gin, not the nappies )

[gary999]

And not that much older?
You could be my dad

I was 32, 3 weeks ago.
Tamsin sent me out for nappies and a bottle of gin this afternoon.
I got ID'd! (For the gin, not the nappies )

im 46  nearly not quite young man

[gary999]

Dont get me wrong diry ive come across plenty of those twonks
over the years,you always get bad eggs in any organisation.

I was just talking about the overall history since the late19th
century when unions were decriminlised in this country and i know
im older than you but not that much you cheeky fecker!

When you were working in the 19th century did they help you out of a fix? 

Hey less of that i get enough of that from my 22yrd old and 16 yr old
ya cheeky young whippersnapper

[PoleKing]

Lol.
You love it.
Makes you feel young. X

[gary999]

Lol.
You love it.
Makes you feel young. X

You will get there one day,believe me it aint so good when both your
lads are over 6ft and pat you on the head and give you cheek and
i can no longer kill the bleeders because i can no longer catch them

[PoleKing]

Lol.
You love it.
Makes you feel young. X

You will get there one day,believe me it aint so good when both your
lads are over 6ft and pat you on the head and give you cheek and
i can no longer kill the bleeders because i can no longer catch them

Yup. I know. I was taller than my dad when I hit 14. (He's 5'10)
My eldest is 3&1/2 but wears aged 6 clothes, his best little friend is nearly 7 but Bailey is only 2 inches shorter than him.
Bentley is just 1 but wearing aged 2+ clothes.
They're gonna be big lads. Certainly bigger than me.
God help me.
(Least the little fella has his Mum's temperament.)

[Tom White]

Bentley is just 1 but wearing aged 2+ clothes.
They're gonna be big lads. Certainly bigger than me.

Let's hope little Bentley grows into a huge strapping lad; it'll come in useful with a name like that.

Who the heck calls their kid Bentley?   

[Soupy]

For a minority of people zero contracts are spot on.  Why?  Because the employee may not have to turn up to work if they don't want to/it's not convenient.

Don't know if you are trying to be clever or sarcastic or summat but you seem to have completely missed the point of a zero hour contract. Businesses are not going to give someone a contract that says: I'll pay you £x per hour, turn up when you can be arsed. That's moronic.

The employee is not going to get to choose whether they turn up to work or not. That's called a "no contract whatsoever contract".

[Tom White]

Don't know if you are trying to be clever or sarcastic or summat but you seem to have completely missed the point of a zero hour contract. Businesses are not going to give someone a contract that says: I'll pay you £x per hour, turn up when you can be arsed. That's moronic.

The employee is not going to get to choose whether they turn up to work or not. That's called a "no contract whatsoever contract".

Soupy, you've got the certainty of an idiot.  Things aren't as clear cut as you'd like to think.



https://www.cipd.co.uk/binaries/6426%20Zero-hours%20contract%20guide%20(WEB).pdf

[Soupy]

Ha. A press release from an HR firm? Really?

Perhaps there is an industry where it's feasible to let employees work whenever they like. Dunno what that is but it ain't window cleaning.