[dazmond]

i have a 350L tank ratchet strapped down tight in my van at the moment but moving up to a 500L tank in my next van.

im thinking of a frame from cleaning warehouse.not cheap though.£600+ with VAT and delivery including tank.its the same type of frame that grippatank use apparently.

im still undecided on what van to buy.despite some of the horror stories ive heard im still thinking of a vivaro/trafic/primastar.ive decided to save a bit more so ill have around 6 grand for one.

what do you guys use to secure you tank?

cheers guys


dazmond

[Clever Forum Name]

http://www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk/4.html

Get them to make you a nice 500 flat tank with a simple retaining frame. Jobs a good un.

[matty72]

used straps for 650 tank for 8 years, always been okay but if i had the money would go for a frame if what the experts say is true about accident and g force of the tank, always drive carefully though lol

[bobplum]

Had a 400 upright in van last year which was strapped someone ran into the back of me at a junction probably no more than 10 miles an hour, the tank ended up at i would say a 45 degree angle because of the kinetic force, it was full, straps held it but just, so if you had an accident at 40 mph i would not like to see the end result.

If you have the money and will keep the van for a few years go for the frame

[robert mitchell]

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Grippamax-Basic-DIY-Fitment-GRIPPAMAX_BARE.html


I would go for this 650 litre crash tested for 1295 (diy fitment)


its what i have got and in a vivaro , even when full you hardly notice its there .

Very well baffled and low centre of gravity.

[Ben wood]

Jesus Daz. All this money you say you earn and you want to scrimp on securing you tank. Just get a decent setup so if you ever do crash you have a better chance.

[AuRavelling79]

Both.

Tank against bulkhead. Sat in Frame. Frame bolted through van floor. Ratchet strapped to frame.

Modified to add - that's what I've done with my 650 in my Hyundai.

[dazmond]

ive just ordered a tank retaining frame and a 500L baffled upright tank from cleaning warehouse.£400 including VAT and delivery.

im thinking the same GOLD.ill ratchet strap it down as well.

ill get the local garage to fit it for me.i cant be bothered messing about drilling holes in the van floor meself!!

[dazmond]

Jesus Daz. All this money you say you earn and you want to scrimp on securing you tank. Just get a decent setup so if you ever do crash you have a better chance.

i want to spend as little money as possible mate!

more money for my van then!to be honest ive only started saving up for my van this year!ive got £4,000 up to now.still need another grand or two yet!!

[H20cleaning]

Years ago my dad had a big roller tool box in a Toyota hiyace and a lorry pulled out on him when he was doing about 50mph.
My dad thinks he was doing about 30mph by the time he got the lorry, and his tool box flew forward and his legs were trapped in the drivers seat.

So can you imagine a half ton water tank flying forward?
Its not worth your life

Mine is bolted through the bulk head and through the chassis, should be fine unless the van rolls, in which case i would need a snorkel 

[ben M]

Had a 400 upright in van last year which was strapped someone ran into the back of me at a junction probably no more than 10 miles an hour, the tank ended up at i would say a 45 degree angle because of the kinetic force, it was full, straps held it but just, so if you had an accident at 40 mph i would not like to see the end result.

If you have the money and will keep the van for a few years go for the frame

i like to hear that, at least a good recommendation,well done mate

[ben M]

don't be tight Daz, no point to be the richest man in the cemetery!

[Marc Stock]

Has anyone thought of manufacting water tanks that rupture on impact. Thus dispelling any kinetic force in an accident?

[AuRavelling79]

Had a 400 upright in van last year which was strapped someone ran into the back of me at a junction probably no more than 10 miles an hour, the tank ended up at i would say a 45 degree angle because of the kinetic force, it was full, straps held it but just, so if you had an accident at 40 mph i would not like to see the end result.

If you have the money and will keep the van for a few years go for the frame

Bit more detail? Was it against the bulkhead and "bounced back" or what? What were the ratchet straps fixed to?

[PoleKing]

Has anyone thought of manufacting water tanks that rupture on impact. Thus dispelling any kinetic force in an accident?

Tank in my last van did that.
Had it made by Kiowa in Sleaford.
On impact the main body of the tank would seperate from the base.
The strength was a bit like an ikea wardrobe.
Once complete-strong as an ox but take one component away and the whole thing collapsed.
Expensive but worth it.

[brianbarber]

Put a few grand deposit on a new van, finance the van and a grippamax tank.
Professional image and a safetly fitted tank.

Mr B

[CleanClear]

Has anyone thought of manufacting water tanks that rupture on impact. Thus dispelling any kinetic force in an accident?

No mate, as far as i'm aware they havn't. That would be a brilliant product, but as far as marketing goes i don't think the idea of an expensive item disintegrating on impact would hold much water (pardon the pun).
 The frames they all have out now are a load of crap. They're bolted through the floor in some sort of archaic fashion, and the manufactureres boast (in most cases) is that the frame "retains its integrity", rips the arse or floor out your van making it probably a right off, but still, the frame maintains its integrity.
  I've now changed over from metal floor bolted frames to wood, and secure it to the pillars of the van. Mind you thats using one of the strong Wydale tanks. But yes i'm certain a more flimsier (and probably cheaper) tank is the way to go for safety, the worse that can happen then in an accident is you get wet.

[windowswashed]

Powder coat frames are rubbish IMO as they are mild steel which is powder coated heated in a glorified oven. Mild steel rusts and powder coated frames chip and peel allowing rust to spread, weakening tank frames. Stainless steel frames cost more but are a better investment in the long run.

[dazmond]

im really not interested in spending more money than i need to regarding tanks and frames.

my next van will have a full bulkhead,500L baffled tank in retaining frame and ratchet strapped down tight.

i bumped into a jet washer guy the other month.he drives an expensive shiny new vw transporter,alloy wheels etc and in the back he has a 1000L IBC tank on a pallet with a few flimsy straps holding it down

now im not stupid but no way am i spending £1300 for a tank that holds water!

[Window Lickers]

Jesus Daz. All this money you say you earn and you want to scrimp on securing you tank. Just get a decent setup so if you ever do crash you have a better chance.

You can't educate a turnip mate, especially where money is concerned.