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PAUL ERITH

Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2014, 07:48:04 am »
My next tank will be in a bolted down frame ratchet straps to the loading eyes isn't  that safe to be honest in a crash.

Tie-down points to keep your cargo secure
Side-wall mounted tie-down points help keep the load floor clear and are both DIN and ISO compliant. There are also body side fixings mounted at both waist and shoulder height, each rated at 30kgs load.

http://www.ford.co.uk/CommercialVehicles/All-New-Transit-Courier/Utility-and-costs

dazmond

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2014, 07:50:24 am »
it wasnt that long ago matt bateman(not god)that you were driving around in a red combo.probably with a dodgy tank in the back! ;D ;D ;D

price higher/work harder!

Dave Willis

Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2014, 07:58:10 am »
Money coming out of your ears and you won't spend on safety.  Bizzarre  ???

Just put your prices up to cover the cost.

Extra £500 or so could get you a stainless steel cage fully fitted - nothing really spread over four or five years. Less than a new extreme pole.

dazmond

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2014, 08:24:57 am »
dave what makes you think "ive got money coming out of my ears"?im a sole trader!

i earn well.probably more than most sole trader mainly domestic window cleaners but it doesnt mean i should spend a shedload of money on equipment!

this year will be the biggest amount of money ive ever spent on a van.

keeping costs down is very important.its only the last few years ive started to earn well in this game. ;) :)
price higher/work harder!

ben M

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2014, 08:27:52 am »
Daz you must be paying too much tax, not better for you to be limited company?

G Griffin

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2014, 08:54:45 am »
im really not interested in spending more money than i need to regarding tanks and frames.
Who does?   ;D
And it depends on what your 'needs' are.
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Window Lickers

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2014, 08:55:31 am »
it wasnt that long ago matt bateman(not god)that you were driving around in a red combo.probably with a dodgy tank in the back! ;D ;D ;D




Right on one count wrong on the other.
































Fitted by PureFreedom.


Like I said, where money is concerned .......
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

capn sparkle

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2014, 08:58:49 am »
As I'm currently sat in Pure Freedoms front office.... I hope bolting the tank down is safe!!!

Lots of drilling noises happening

Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2014, 09:00:54 am »
dave what makes you think "ive got money coming out of my ears"?im a sole trader!
Probably because you go on about it so much  ;D
e.g. £12000 increase in turnover since going wfp, luxury holidays, sports car, "£500 is not a lot of money to give hot water a try " etc. lol  :D ;)

Window Lickers

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2014, 09:04:13 am »
Everyone likes to make out they earn shed loads of money, trouble is some also have a 'it won't happen to me' mentality.


When it does they then have a 'Poor me' mentality.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Ben wood

Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2014, 09:06:35 am »
If I had the money you say you earn I would be getting the grippamax boys round and fitting a tank in a new van. its a bit like cleaning of ladders you may not have killed yourself yet but if it happens no more work. I bought a tank and frame from grippa the fitted it on my drive, I feel a lot happier knowing if I crash I have more chance of walking away. jesus if I could I would have the all singing and dancing van setup from ionics in a new van. least when you go to work you don't have to think about things breaking or killing you. I honestly think you tell a few porkies on how much money you make as if you did make that much spending 10 grand is nothing.

Scrimble

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2014, 09:46:16 am »
ive just ordered a tank retaining frame and a 500L baffled upright tank from cleaning warehouse.£400 including VAT and delivery.



waste of money,

you could have had a by far better tank custom made with a proper frame for not much more http://www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk/1.html

JSMC

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2014, 01:47:52 pm »
http://www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk/4.html

Get them to make you a nice 500 flat tank with a simple retaining frame. Jobs a good un.
what prices you talking for those tanks ?

Scrimble

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2014, 02:12:23 pm »
http://www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk/4.html

Get them to make you a nice 500 flat tank with a simple retaining frame. Jobs a good un.
what prices you talking for those tanks ?

ring the phone number and ask, The chap made my tank and it is excellent,

fully baffled tank custom made to my specification, cant even feel it in the back of the van,

James Bulton

Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2014, 02:36:13 pm »
I don`t care who make your tank and frame when someone hit you up the ass you will not remember how much you paid and even who made the frame as all are tested at a low mph. You will be drinking  lunch from  a tea cup or not at all. So decide dead or maimed. This will always be a controversial till someone has a accident to prove different.

G Griffin

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2014, 02:44:22 pm »
Are you saying no one has done an effective test and no one has had a crash serious enough to test the safety of their tank?
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AuRavelling79

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2014, 03:52:25 pm »
I don`t care who make your tank and frame when someone hit you up the ass you will not remember how much you paid and even who made the frame as all are tested at a low mph. You will be drinking  lunch from  a tea cup or not at all. So decide dead or maimed. This will always be a controversial till someone has a accident to prove different.
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Strange isn't it Smithie - no one seems to have been badly injured by a tank breaking free? Is that because it is extremely rare compared to many things which may befall us?

After all not a fortnight goes by without some poor sod falling from a ladder and it being reported on here. Can't remember a tank killing on here before.



It's a game of three halves!

jonboywalton75

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2014, 05:03:00 pm »
http://www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk/4.html

Get them to make you a nice 500 flat tank with a simple retaining frame. Jobs a good un.
what prices you talking for those tanks ?


That frame is bolted through the floor I presume?

G Griffin

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2014, 05:10:01 pm »
I don`t care who make your tank and frame when someone hit you up the ass you will not remember how much you paid and even who made the frame as all are tested at a low mph. You will be drinking  lunch from  a tea cup or not at all. So decide dead or maimed. This will always be a controversial till someone has a accident to prove different.
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Strange isn't it Smithie - no one seems to have been badly injured by a tank breaking free? Is that because it is extremely rare compared to many things which may befall us?

After all not a fortnight goes by without some poor sod falling from a ladder and it being reported on here. Can't remember a tank killing on here before.




That's another thing, Malc
There are issues with water tanks and they're nothing to do with ladder use.
Maybe the issues are dealt with, as you say, and that's why there are so few incidents. But some will ignore the dangers and cut corners, regardless of ladder use.
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dazmond

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Re: tank frame or ratchet strapped down?
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2014, 05:31:08 pm »
well there is some guys with an attitude on ere thats for sure!! ;D ;D

chill guys!! ;D

ive made my decision and ordered what i think is right for my needs.at the end of the day its my money.ill do what the hell i like with it! ;)

500L baffled tank,retaining frame and 5 ton ratchets straps.thatll do for me £400. :)

all price rises now done.2 customers lost.happy days! ;)
price higher/work harder!