[Jonny 87]

http://www.riseandshinewindowcleaners.co.uk/about.php

Stumbled across this company's website. They have pretty much a whole page explaining why trad is "proven to be superior."

It's the first time I've seen a company make a large part of their website "anti WFP"

It almost comes across as they've got something to prove and a bit unprofessional in my opinion, and although I'm WFP I would never slag off trad on my website to try and gain custies.

Bit annoyed at it when I read.... "proven to be superior".....  as it adds to people's wrong view about WFP, and is actually a lie about WFP.

Anyone know this company?

Or are they on here?

[kempy]

I never make a mistake trad , well hardly ever .
Wfp sometimes when I do some insides I can see the odd trickle of dirt .

But that's us with the KEEN eye .

I don't judge them against each other , I use both , I'm good at both , simple .

Wfp if persons clean correctly Is very good , as long as you take your time with it then Wfp is good .
Rinse and rinse

Never had a complaint , got a few custies that prefere trad , so I do trad on them houses .

All I know is Wfp is far easier , especially in overcast cold conditions as drying with cloths in this is hard

[tench0771]

i think wfp does a beta job is quicker 90 percent of the time but some with realy bad rubbers r a pain so its quicker to trad them as they can leave runs even if u turn water of shake brush an swip the top fraim an rubber sill but its unfair to say wfp is not as good they an gives it a bad name

[Stephen.C]

Let them get on with it, that is the way they see it and that is Fine.
I quoted for a 3 year contract on a warden controlled complex, didn't stand a chance as I'm wfp and the residents wanted  trad as they didn't like the pole system. Now the contract is up in April and the owners are now saying it has to be wfp due to insurances for the complex. Fingers crossed.

[tench0771]

ive got a few jobs where they insist on wfp due to insurance issues

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Let them get on with it, that is the way they see it and that is Fine.
I quoted for a 3 year contract on a warden controlled complex, didn't stand a chance as I'm wfp and the residents wanted  trad as they didn't like the pole system. Now the contract is up in April and the owners are now saying it has to be wfp due to insurances for the complex. Fingers crossed.

Is that that lot I quoted for as well a few years Steve?

[Stephen.C]

Yes, matt was told on Friday.

[Smurf]

I think it's rather funny why they still belong to The British Window Cleaners Academy being owned by ionics and all.
It is also mention on their site that they do risk assessments and methods statements but still use ladders to clean 3 storey windows.

Each to their own I suppose....

[robertphil]

many WFP websites milk the advantage of it so its always best that trad do the same. 

[PurefectWindowCleaning]

Unbeleivable Jeff

[dave f]

i have to say i aint fussed which is better we are all in this game to make a living so long as the custy is happy. they are pros and cons in both,but the main pro is the saftey aspect.the more regulated this industry is  the better ,and bring the genral publics view to window cleaning out of the dark ages sooner the better,ie the stan ogdens of this profestion.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

That's okay. Let them crack on. It's their business they're running.

Nice enough website. Looks professional enough okay they've probably used a bit of artistic licence in what they say about the failings of WFP but not mentioned the problems associated with trad cleaning. It's their drum, let them bang it as they see fit.

Proof is in the pudding- customers can leave if they want.

I know after working off a ladder for 12 years which is my 'weapon of choice'. They are allowed to clean trad without criticism.

[LWC]

"Having tried the new 'Water Fed pole'- 'Wash & Reach’ systems, we found the results to be somewhat disappointing"

...not doing it properly then. Probably rushing and not rinsing properly. Dont blame the tool!

[wfp master]

Each to thier own.

[C o z y]

Who gives a toss about what some firm's website says about WFP? What if they put up on there saying WFP guys don't know how to clean insides, or all WFP guys are shirtlifters. Who's going to read it?

[johnny bravo]

let them put there lives at risk,    they must do some high windows,    they know the dangers.  if i didnt do wfp cleaning i would have lost a lot of ££££££££   due to wind factors,  if doing trad.

its our own choice which way we clean,         they like us are only trying to sell themselfs.     fair play  to all.

[Smurf]

There is one chap local to me that slags of wfp bigtime on his site but he is still a nice bloke as trad is his thing. Had to laugh though as he passes on enquires on stuff that he can't clean after seeing the standard of work I do at a couple of his window cleaning customer houses.

Yep his customers contacted me first as was wanting full exterior cleans including gutter clearing, all plastics, gutters fascias , soffits, etc cleaned also awkward access conservatory roofs aswell.... Go figure  

So that chap lost out on a few bob to say the least but is still their regular window cleaner as I never like to take works off others unless the customer asks for a quote.

[tom20001]

i agree its their own choice what to use and how to promote it

however if i was a custie i would not be best pleased with a ladder placed against the frame of my upvc window as i shown on their homepage??!!!!!!!!!!

could mark it/ could slip and go through glass etc

[richard groves]

Sorry but i can't see what the problem is and why anyone should get so annoyed.
If they prefer to work trad only then that is there usp and why not plug that aspect ?
How many times have you seen wfp websites plugging its plus sides, privacy , no marks on the lawn, streak free, no broken roof tiles etc. - its just the same thing.

[Smurf]

I think when your start using words like "Superior" then just might annoy others 

Sorry but i can't see what the problem is and why anyone should get so annoyed.
If they prefer to work trad only then that is there usp and why not plug that aspect ?
How many times have you seen wfp websites plugging its plus sides, privacy , no marks on the lawn, streak free, no broken roof tiles etc. - its just the same thing.