[sherco]

He has done something right...He's got everybody attention. 

[Smurf]

Yep indeed

[Jonny 87]

Sorry but i can't see what the problem is and why anyone should get so annoyed.
If they prefer to work trad only then that is there usp and why not plug that aspect ?
How many times have you seen wfp websites plugging its plus sides, privacy , no marks on the lawn, streak free, no broken roof tiles etc. - its just the same thing.

I'm probably over protective of WFP.lol

I'm extremely thorough and do the best job possible. In 3 years of cleaning 350 plus customers every 4 weeks I can count on one hand the number of complaints I've had.
Pretty much every new customer I get thinks WFP is rubbish because of how the last WFP guys used it, and this gives it a bad name, and I find it really frustrating as it takes a clean or two to win their trust with it.

I Don't really know how you can say there's nothing wrong with it when it's a outright lie. Anything the WFP guys say is truth. I.e frames get all washed down, glass is cleaner for longer, no risk of broken roof tiles. All true.

I would never say WFP is far superior! Even though I may think it. Lol

[Smurf]

Put it this way if they started taking loads of work from you then that's when you would need to get worried and maybe annoyed. Until then let them get on with it bud as long as they don’t breach trading standards regulations there is nothing anyone can do anyhow.
https://www.gov.uk/marketing-advertising-law/regulations-that-affect-advertising

[Jonny 87]

Put it this way if they started taking loads of work from you then that's when you would need to get worried and maybe annoyed. Until then let them get on with it bud as long as they don’t breach trading standards regulations there is nothing anyone can do anyhow.
https://www.gov.uk/marketing-advertising-law/regulations-that-affect-advertising

Your right mate. Wise words.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

I think when your start using words like "Superior" then just might annoy others 

They're only voicing their opinion. You have yours, he has his.

[robbo333]

I think the whole trad v wfp thing is a shame.
Yes I am wfp but I can also trad.
Personally I don't give a t*ss what anyone else does because fundamentally...I don't care.
I have a few bungalows that I still do trad (the old dears love it) and I actually really enjoy doing it, especially when the sun's on your back and there's a cuppa and a biscuit waiting for me 
Personally I wouldn't waste my time slagging one method off against another (I don't think the customers really care). I would spend my time selling the benefits of MY company and the high quality of clean that I provide; whichever method it is.

[rosskesava]

i agree its their own choice what to use and how to promote it

however if i was a custie i would not be best pleased with a ladder placed against the frame of my upvc window as i shown on their homepage??!!!!!!!!!!

could mark it/ could slip and go through glass etc

One ladder has ladder mits on it and the other 3 are pointers with rubber at the top.

I take it you've never used a pointed ladder?

[tom20001]

i agree its their own choice what to use and how to promote it

however if i was a custie i would not be best pleased with a ladder placed against the frame of my upvc window as i shown on their homepage??!!!!!!!!!!

could mark it/ could slip and go through glass etc

One ladder has ladder mits on it and the other 3 are pointers with rubber at the top.

I take it you've never used a pointed ladder?

i wouldnt because for several reasons i would not want it placed against the window!

[Jonny 87]

i agree its their own choice what to use and how to promote it

however if i was a custie i would not be best pleased with a ladder placed against the frame of my upvc window as i shown on their homepage??!!!!!!!!!!

could mark it/ could slip and go through glass etc

One ladder has ladder mits on it and the other 3 are pointers with rubber at the top.

I take it you've never used a pointed ladder?

I take it you've never seen a PVC frame crack under the pressure? Trust me it can happen. It's daft putting the pointer there. I use pointers and would put it above the windows onto the wall.

Actually hang on, I'd WFP it. Lol

[andyjm1]

Hardly anyone will find the site anyway as the on page SEO is very poor.

[Smurf]

Yep most of those pvc-u window frames will flex and are in general not bolted in very well either.

To use a pointy ladder like that is crazy if you ask me  

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Funny isn't it how everyone has to try to prove a point, even if its nothing to do with the OP.

[Smurf]

It's is called having a discussion

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Talking about the tits on page three is having a discussion.


Talking about the tits on here is having an arguement.

 

[Smurf]

It's alway good to talk 

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

 

[Smurf]

Anyhow trad vs wfp has always been a contentious topic and always will be. After all they are just tools of the trade and you choose the most appropriate tools/methods most suited to each job as many will use both methods not just one or the other.

[rosskesava]

I take it you've never seen a PVC frame crack under the pressure? Trust me it can happen. It's daft putting the pointer there. I use pointers and would put it above the windows onto the wall.

Actually hang on, I'd WFP it. Lol

Nope. Never seen one crack. Ever.

Never heard of one cracking either.

The ladder isn't on the glass, it's on the frame that's made to an industry standard in terms of strength, etc. It's made to withstand, I think, 150mph winds.

And yes, I'd wfp it as well but if that lot want to do the job trad, then that's up to them and if they want to promote themselves by stating that trad is better, then more power to their elbow.

[Smurf]

I had to get my pvc-u window frames rebolted back into the wall and re-weather sealed inside and out many moons ago because of a trad guy resting his ladders on the frames simular to that. Was fitted properly by a very well know company but the window cleaners was established to have coursed them to fail and he had to pay out of his own pocket get it sorted.

So my advice is don't rest pointy ladders on plastic frames