[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Susan, a lot is dependent on area, not the person (23 years in I know this) up north we don't do well in relation to down on the south coast - so its not always the person.  Its to do with local economics - and how much people have as extra expendable income - its always been that way.  We do really well in some areas, and in others we don't because of saturation of services, where are you based? As always Susan I ask new customers "what have they done themselves" It puts expectations into perspective

were base in the south east and once my shops ready (just bought it for daughter) I will be there full time as ive got the farm rented out now so its all go once the builders have finshed cant wait to move to finton on sea its going to be great so there should be lots of moneys down there

[KT1]

So what are you looking for Susan Im confused now, somebody to knock for domestic window cleaning?

[Crystal-clear]

Basically that's canvassing for

you stick rates vary customers vary its not really a knockers fualt ofc he would like customers to stick on a large scale why on earth not ,customers don't say the truth until 2 years of dirt has been removed and some will continue if its a fair price others will just make anything up like husband will do it from now on. When they get dirty again in 2 years they will pick on the next window cleaner promise the world and explain that the husband will take over some people are happy to have there windows cleaned 10x over 20 years others 240 x and if it so happens that there are a few to many of these customers being canvassed canvasser gets blamed maybe that's why someone said he was poor would be good to find out a bit more info as mark clearly states his responsibilitys are that you get your money back over 2 cleans then its up to the cleaner..so you kinda know what you are getting involved in he doesn't promise you the world he tells you it will be hard there is a reason why he isn't cleaning windows and its because establishing first cleans takes time and effort
If it was that easy he and the whole country would be window cleaners

But as you can see his refs are real and that was a real person who gave you his opinion
If you service 10 people by the laws of nature you will get some that didn't think it was for them doesn't mean its not for everyone keep calling refs they will give you honest opinions
Good luck

[roundbuilder]

The reason you should feel safe using whizz is because there hasnt been 1 person who have said he has ripped them off, no one has said he has done great granted however for him to do great would mean to hit an area where next to noone has a window cleaner which isnt going to happen. I spoke to whizz many times about canvassing and where i would sign up literally anything and charge for it x2, whizz is more honest and leave you with the info from the door knock regarding how interested they were etc...
You should give the guy a break susan if im being honest as its his livleyhood and if you read between the lines it would be business suicide for him to rip you or anyone else off so if i was you id give him a chance as there isnt a better canvassing company out there to trust with your money.
This isnt a dig at you at all as usualy i hate canvassing companies however i truely believe whizz is different and honest. its just how i would look at things, also for your money you get looked after by him weather it takes him 3 days to hit the target of work for you or 3 weeks he wont charge you anymore money for his time which is where he betters himself from the crowd.

[KT1]

Sach youve got to be in it to win it, like I say it comes down to areas that your doing - all well and good calling refs but ultimately you have to make your own decision, business is about taking risks - if you take it and it dosen't work at least you have tried, to be honest not heard one bad report about Mark and I speak to him most days

[Crystal-clear]

It's true Kate that's what self employment is about, good post mick also mark doesn't say this and dont know why but how often have you heard a canvasser actually refund a window cleaner lol? I know Mark does this when the area is really hard one person recently used him for 2 campaigns he refunded one cos the area was hard and they were very slow with cleaning the first one so he actually gave money back and cut his trip short ! Put himself well out of pocket as he had booked that week in now if that doesn't show a non con man then I don't know what els does

[KT1]

Its about expectations and realism, Sach I always say " have you picked the phone up" "have you been out" canvassing companies are not rabbits and hats, its a long term thing

[Crystal-clear]

Yes that's a very fair thing to say indeed perhaps the best advice is that go out Give it a try your self so when u
You hire someone compare the results

[KT1]

Yep Sach

[Whizz-Bizz]

I welcome people investigating me as long as its done to the criteria set out and I think you'll find more people satisfied than not satisfied.

Additional questions I would suggest are,

1.Did Whizz turn up on the agreed dates
2.Was Whizz contactable from first contact, until arrival day.
3.Was the cleaner asked for any additional money at any stage

If I have any clients that feel not quite satisfied all I can suggest is to pick the phone up and get me the results over so you can receive the full package. ie 15 hours telesales.

Many canvassing campaigns are won on the back end of the marketing package

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

after contacting all of billy whizzes refs buy phone and txing  only 1 person answered the tx none not one of the others rang or txed back ? why ill leave that for now

 the guy that did take the time to reply was spot on ! had northing but good things to say about billy (mark) and told me about someone else that wasn't good to deal with and not to use this other company as I would lose money like he did ect  ect ect

hubbys been emailing  mark and as said that mark answered all questions asked and is willing to meet up for a chat if both are free to dot the eyes and cross the tees  so marks not hiding anything so far

the guys that havnt replyed to the txs ect ect I am thinking that there lazy window cleaners rather then having something bad to say its a man thing  "ill do that tomorrow"

that where we are so far

[Whizz-Bizz]

Any more feed back on the refs there ?

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

yes got a tx today saying that mr whizzer was good to deal with and got good money for the work he got

so heres where we stand

3 good reports  (2 refs and 1 fourm user)
1 good report from husband who as been emailing mr whizzer and as answered all questions asked

1 bad report from a fourm user

now just a date still to be sorted for a meeting then a date for mr whizzer to start work for us if all involed are happy with each other

, I will report my findings and dealing with mr whizzer as we go along as I would also be happy for him to do the same about us weather good or bad 

[Whizz-Bizz]

See Im not so bad am I Susan 

If you guys want to come meet me your looking at around 20th dec ish when I'm next local ish to you, over next couple of weeks Im cruising down the west coast. Wrexham currently then Cheltenham then Mexico then Great Yarmouth. After that your looking at first week of Jan onwards.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

just a update

after a few more emails we are going to give billy a try so we asked how we pay the deposit ?? he then sent his bank details which is quite fair ,

however because I am me a want to see how gen this guy is hubby sent an email back saying we don't do paying over the inter net and want to send a cheque ................... I gladly sat around waiting for a bull poop email saying he doesn't do cheque ect ect ect 

well that's me eating  humble pie 5 mins later address for us to post the cheque too not a problem at all

so ive just wrote it out and will be posting it in the morning

[CLEANCARE WC]

love it!!!!! classic clean it up row!     

[Whizz-Bizz]

I play a straight game, I do my best and work to the best of my abilities as much as possible. Im happy to take cheques for deposits thats fine. Come the outstanding balance on arrival thou its got to be cleared funds.


CLEANCARE WINDOW CLEANING you obviously dont read many whizz posts  , this ones quite mild compared to some others in the past. My first ever post on C.I.U got so heated the admins stepped in and deleted it. Its all good    

[AuRavelling79]

yes got a tx today saying that mr whizzer was good to deal with and got good money for the work he got

so heres where we stand

3 good reports  (2 refs and 1 fourm user)
1 good report from husband who as been emailing mr whizzer and as answered all questions asked

1 bad report from a fourm user

now just a date still to be sorted for a meeting then a date for mr whizzer to start work for us if all involed are happy with each other

, I will report my findings and dealing with mr whizzer as we go along as I would also be happy for him to do the same about us weather good or bad  

Why do you want him to report on US weather? Is your business dependant on the climate in the States and does he charge extra for this?

[PoleKing]

yes got a tx today saying that mr whizzer was good to deal with and got good money for the work he got

so heres where we stand

3 good reports  (2 refs and 1 fourm user)
1 good report from husband who as been emailing mr whizzer and as answered all questions asked

1 bad report from a fourm user

now just a date still to be sorted for a meeting then a date for mr whizzer to start work for us if all involed are happy with each other

, I will report my findings and dealing with mr whizzer as we go along as I would also be happy for him to do the same about us weather good or bad  

Why do you want him to report on US weather? Is your business dependant on the climate in the States and does he charge extra for this?

Goldy.





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[Carpet Dawg]

Susan sounds like a pain in the arse customer from hell that we all try to avoid/walk away from... just saying.