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WFP has it's ups and downs......

not as much as ladders though.

[SunShineCleaning]

I live in Plymouth mate, not the best paying area of the country, and I can pull in £200 easily enough in a day. Where do you live???

i live in the lake district  & work mostly round kendal & a few villages,  its frustrating cos there's a lot of money up here( a lot of people retire or have 2nd homes up here)  but there are still a lot of low wages.  my old estate has 4 wc living on it & another 4 that work up there.    i'm the most expensive at £6 for 3 bed & £5 for 2, out in the villages you can charge decent prices but there are a lot of windies so there are no big runs  its all 1's & 2's . 3 or 4 is a good run
i have done over 200 but it was a 9hr day & i had 1 £66 job that took 1hr 20 min  that was a camp site thats now been sold & broken up.   if i earn over £100 a day( and i normally do )  i'm still on a lot more than a lot of people i know eg; my mate is a groundwork ganger & he needs overtime to take home £350

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I holiday in the Lakes usually once a year and am amazed at the number of dirty windows, esp in the holiday homes. I would target these properties and work on a 4 yearly package to keep on top of them. The price could be a premium one and could include facia and gutters etc.

The problem you have is that most places are miles from anywhere.

[John pearce]

I had a hell of a time changing to wfp, so much so that i went back to ladders,

after scrubbing frames by hand before changing, then rinsnig and rinsing and more f...cking rinsing

then moaning bloody custies saying "i prefer the way you used too do it, makes alot of mess, plus there was

some runs from your thingy"     loss of earnings,  god it was horrible, so went back to ladders,

and it did seem more easy,    until i got to the big lead lite calls, and my dangerous calls, (High stuff)

and after a while thought ive done all the hard stuff switching over, i'll give it another go, should get bit easier

 now,

 ladder work is tiring, so went back and persevered, and over time you get to know what work best for you,

 for me its the back pack,   hoses...=....stress, and worry (public tripping)  

back packs on the property with me, like my ladders were,.   + i dont feel so nackered  now.

stick with it   john.

[jimiwindows]

wfp is killing the game

[DG Cleaning]

I've had only a couple of complaints since swapping over. I didn't tell any custies about it either I just turned up and cleaned. If they asked I explained but on the whole they let me get on with it.

[bobplum]

I know you will all think me mad.
Been wfp 14 months and yes its safer and sometimes quicker.
wfp is driving me crazy theres always a problem with the kit
The expence and custies if given the choice i know prefare trad
and it really does do a better job.
Have been back on ladders 3 days due to faulty pump,and have quite enjoyed it
less hastle,proper exercise thinking of going back to ladders full time.
 

what price value do you put on your life David?

[G Griffin]

Trolly set ups are letting the wfp  way of cleaning down there's a husband and wife team in st,annes lancs running one trolly with 2 feed pipes  cleaning at 30 on the controller not rinsing the windows properly

Like Bonnie& Clyde wfp'ers?
I bet loads of of wc'ers all over the country have lost work because of these two. 

[robertphil]

Trolly set ups are letting the wfp  way of cleaning down there's a husband and wife team in st,annes lancs running one trolly with 2 feed pipes  cleaning at 30 on the controller not rinsing the windows properly

Like Bonnie& Clyde wfp'ers?
I bet loads of of wc'ers all over the country have lost work because of these two. 

famous for bein sh/t , u cant buy that sort of  fame

[Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services]

Have just read this post for the first time this morning.

It started well and then for some reason starts moving over to earnings. Yes we all want to earn a nice living but to keep on stating how much, is pointless as we all work different, full time, part time extra job whatever and in different areas of the country or world!

Daily earnings, yes we have great ones, but not every day.

As for going back to ladders your thinking what 90% of polers have thought at sometime or other, and as some chaps have said before, window cleaning can be distressing at times. If you can manage to get your equipment sorted out and technique right then meet yourself halfway and as previously suggested pole the tops and trad everything else, see how that goes, it might be a good compromise for you.

Good luck

Steve

[paul13]

I wouldn't go back to trad and cant understand why anyone
would trad bottoms and wfp tops just think wfp far quicker
and safer. (unless water an issue)

Think discussing daily earnings ect is a good thing as it lets us
know if we are all at the same daily earnings obviously its not just
how much but if you have the same size of run same sort of equipment
you should be making roughly the same no matter where in the country you are yes/no?

I am in scotland so I know im the lower end price scale  but i have a full run
so know £200 is an easily achievable target for one man full time wfp.
My point is if you can only make £100  in the same circumstances
and you want to increase earnings you can with help and advice. 

[Danny Guest]

I made the mistake of going WFP for the short term benefits. I had mine 6 months then sold but now I know I missed a great opportunity.

I will be going back to WFP this summer but will be using it as a tool rather than going 100% WFP.

The opportunities I could have had cleaning houses I could not safely do off ladders is countless.

[Danny Guest]

I live in Plymouth mate, not the best paying area of the country, and I can pull in £200 easily enough in a day. Where do you live???

i live in the lake district  & work mostly round kendal & a few villages,  its frustrating cos there's a lot of money up here( a lot of people retire or have 2nd homes up here)  but there are still a lot of low wages.  my old estate has 4 wc living on it & another 4 that work up there.    i'm the most expensive at £6 for 3 bed & £5 for 2, out in the villages you can charge decent prices but there are a lot of windies so there are no big runs  its all 1's & 2's . 3 or 4 is a good run
i have done over 200 but it was a 9hr day & i had 1 £66 job that took 1hr 20 min  that was a camp site thats now been sold & broken up.   if i earn over £100 a day( and i normally do )  i'm still on a lot more than a lot of people i know eg; my mate is a groundwork ganger & he needs overtime to take

Do you know the blackburns? Paul, mark and Kerry?
They used to work and live in Kendal as wc.

[simonr]

Do you know the blackburns? Paul, mark and Kerry?
They used to work and live in Kendal as wc.
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i know 2 lads who work together, i think they're from blackburn, seen them with a huge tank on wheels for wfp  only spoken a couple of times though

[Klean07]

I was on the ladders for 17 years until one day I was half way down a ladder and my knee clicked! Very painful to get to ground level but could have been worse!
So I looked at alternatives etc then one day came across Peters forum. Had a look at posts there for a few months before deciding to invest in wfp. That was 6 years ago I couldn't really see myself going back at all!