[stuart mc]

Look this is easy, don't complicate it worrying about pressure switches, negative feeds and all sorts of other stuff. Your pump has two wires a red and a black. Shove the red to the battery, take a spur off the red to the red on the controller. Put your black controller wire to the negative (black) battery terminal. That leaves you a black wire coming off your pump unatatched, and a yellow/blue wire coming off your controller, unatatched. Join them up. Job done.

yes that is understood, but that means the pressure switch is bypassed and ronnie could be correct, in the vid's you turned the water off by turning the controller, not using a tap on the pole, or any other of means of stopping water, and that is what ronnie was trying to achieve, if you work like some folk do, we turn water off at the pole and either the controller or the pressure switch shuts down the pump, your set up seems to do neither, that is where the confusion lies

[CleanClear]

Look this is easy, don't complicate it worrying about pressure switches, negative feeds and all sorts of other stuff. Your pump has two wires a red and a black. Shove the red to the battery, take a spur off the red to the red on the controller. Put your black controller wire to the negative (black) battery terminal. That leaves you a black wire coming off your pump unatatched, and a yellow/blue wire coming off your controller, unatatched. Join them up. Job done.

yes that is understood, but that means the pressure switch is bypassed and ronnie could be correct, in the vid's you turned the water off by turning the controller, not using a tap on the pole, or any other of means of stopping water, and that is what ronnie was trying to achieve, if you work like some folk do, we turn water off at the pole and either the controller or the pressure switch shuts down the pump, your set up seems to do neither, that is where the confusion lies

No the video is not clear then, i thought it was. I turn the tap off and the pump stops. I don;t interfere with the pressure switch. Every pump i've seen has a wired in pressure switch , also has two wires coming off it, black and red. Just connect to the black and red wires, do not interfere with or disconnect the pressure switch.

[stuart mc]

Look this is easy, don't complicate it worrying about pressure switches, negative feeds and all sorts of other stuff. Your pump has two wires a red and a black. Shove the red to the battery, take a spur off the red to the red on the controller. Put your black controller wire to the negative (black) battery terminal. That leaves you a black wire coming off your pump unatatched, and a yellow/blue wire coming off your controller, unatatched. Join them up. Job done.

yes that is understood, but that means the pressure switch is bypassed and ronnie could be correct, in the vid's you turned the water off by turning the controller, not using a tap on the pole, or any other of means of stopping water, and that is what ronnie was trying to achieve, if you work like some folk do, we turn water off at the pole and either the controller or the pressure switch shuts down the pump, your set up seems to do neither, that is where the confusion lies

No the video is not clear then, i thought it was. I turn the tap off and the pump stops. I don;t interfere with the pressure switch. Every pump i've seen has a wired in pressure switch , also has two wires coming off it, black and red. Just connect to the black and red wires, do not interfere with or disconnect the pressure switch.

[stuart mc]

sorry meant to say thank, I think I get it

[ben M]

sorry meant to say thank, I think I get it

i don't lol, can you explain more please 

[CleanClear]

Think i'll knock them up all ready to go for £30 a pop, with big instructions i.e black battery wire, red battery wire, red pump wire, black wire on your mobile to make it remote !! And complete with a free litre of magica one go go and a blank CRB all ready to fill in !!!! 

[rosskesava]

The voltage regulator I have and use and have done for over 2 years now has a + and - input, and a + and - output. So I connected it between the battery and the pump.

It's works flawlessly and the pressure switch on the pump works as well.

[Ronnie Bryce]

Look this is easy, don't complicate it worrying about pressure switches, negative feeds and all sorts of other stuff. Your pump has two wires a red and a black. Shove the red to the battery, take a spur off the red to the red on the controller. Put your black controller wire to the negative (black) battery terminal. That leaves you a black wire coming off your pump unatatched, and a yellow/blue wire coming off your controller, unatatched. Join them up. Job done.

My controller has four bloody wires here, it's confusing the hell out of me. + and - to pump, and + and - to power.
Doing my tits in. The red on the pump connects to the pressure switch according to the vid Tosh put up, so I have to interfere with the pressure switch to join it up to the battery, this is when it stops working and does not kick in.

Has anyone got a simple wire diagram for a 4 wire controller? Before I launch the basta into orbit.

[Spruce]

Look this is easy, don't complicate it worrying about pressure switches, negative feeds and all sorts of other stuff. Your pump has two wires a red and a black. Shove the red to the battery, take a spur off the red to the red on the controller. Put your black controller wire to the negative (black) battery terminal. That leaves you a black wire coming off your pump unatatched, and a yellow/blue wire coming off your controller, unatatched. Join them up. Job done.

My controller has four bloody wires here, it's confusing the hell out of me. + and - to pump, and + and - to power.
Doing my tits in. The red on the pump connects to the pressure switch according to the vid Tosh put up, so I have to interfere with the pressure switch to join it up to the battery, this is when it stops working and does not kick in.

Has anyone got a simple wire diagram for a 4 wire controller? Before I launch the basta into orbit.

Ronnie

Yours is different to Cleancare with having 4 wires.

Let me get this right.

If you have  + and - to battery and + and - to pump then the pump runs and you can reduce the motors speed hence the flow rate but the pump won't switch off when you close the tap.
If you disconnect the controller and use the pressure switch only, the pump goes like made but when you turn your tap off the pump switches off.

If I have got this right, then your pressure switch on the pump should be fitted between your controller to the pump on the + wire. So your + wire from the controller goes to your pressure switch and the other wire from your pressure switch goes to the motor.

Another thought. The Maplin replacement microswitch for the Shurflo pump has 3 spade contacts. The original has only 2 as the middle spade contact is removed.

If the pressure switch is working then the pressure switch will cut the power to the motor when the pressure builds up. The motor can't run without power.

[ben M]

If I have got this right, then your pressure switch on the pump should be fitted between your controller to the pump on the + wire. So your + wire from the controller goes to your pressure switch and the other wire from your pressure switch goes to the motor.

I have done that in my van so you must be right  

[Ronnie Bryce]

Look this is easy, don't complicate it worrying about pressure switches, negative feeds and all sorts of other stuff. Your pump has two wires a red and a black. Shove the red to the battery, take a spur off the red to the red on the controller. Put your black controller wire to the negative (black) battery terminal. That leaves you a black wire coming off your pump unatatched, and a yellow/blue wire coming off your controller, unatatched. Join them up. Job done.

My controller has four bloody wires here, it's confusing the hell out of me. + and - to pump, and + and - to power.
Doing my tits in. The red on the pump connects to the pressure switch according to the vid Tosh put up, so I have to interfere with the pressure switch to join it up to the battery, this is when it stops working and does not kick in.

Has anyone got a simple wire diagram for a 4 wire controller? Before I launch the basta into orbit.

Ronnie

Yours is different to Cleancare with having 4 wires.

Let me get this right.

If you have  + and - to battery and + and - to pump then the pump runs and you can reduce the motors speed hence the flow rate but the pump won't switch off when you close the tap.
If you disconnect the controller and use the pressure switch only, the pump goes like made but when you turn your tap off the pump switches off.

If I have got this right, then your pressure switch on the pump should be fitted between your controller to the pump on the + wire. So your + wire from the controller goes to your pressure switch and the other wire from your pressure switch goes to the motor.

Another thought. The Maplin replacement microswitch for the Shurflo pump has 3 spade contacts. The original has only 2 as the middle spade contact is removed.

If the pressure switch is working then the pressure switch will cut the power to the motor when the pressure builds up. The motor can't run without power.

Thank's for trying to help Spruce.
When you say so your + wire from the controller goes to your pressure switch, which one? It has 2 plus wires, one marked power and one marked motor, and when you say pressure switch, also which one? it has two spades. But that would leave a + and - wire still on the controller, where do they go?

[ben M]

from the controller:one + and - to battery and one + and - to pump, very easy 

[ben M]

+ wire(red) from the pump to the pressure switch
from the pressure switch(second spade) to the + wire of the controller
black wire from the controller to the black wire of the pump
from the controller, connect the others + and- to the battery
done!  

[Ronnie Bryce]

What is + and - on the pump?

I have one red wire from back of pump going into the pressure spade, from the other spade I have a wire going into the controller marked + motor. I have another wire from the controller marked+ power going to the battery marked+.

I have a black wire from the back of pump going to the battery marked -. This leaves the controller with a + and - connection point not being used. I have blown 5 fuses so far doing it this way?

[Ronnie Bryce]

That is how I have it, keeps blowing fuses soon as I connect to battery

[ben M]

That is how I have it, keeps blowing fuses soon as I connect to battery

no because you connect the black wire from the pump to the battery and should be connected to the controller

[ben M]

I have one red wire from back of pump going into the pressure spade, from the other spade I have a wire going into the controller marked + motor. I have another wire from the controller marked+ power going to the battery marked+.
that is right

after that you should have 2 blacks wire from the controller and 1 black wire from the pump left? am i right?

[ben M]

any help Ronnie?

http://www.springltd.co/upload/Basic%20Controller%20-%20Quick%20Start%20Page%202.pdf

[Ronnie Bryce]

Got it working now, cheers Ben and Spruce, many thank's. It may have been my fault in not understanding electrics too well but it seem's to be as it should now following that 4 wire description you both gave.

The pressure switch takes longer to come on once I turn the tap off, is this normal?

[ben M]

Ronnie,don't forget to fit the fuse once all connections are made, NOT BEFORE!!!