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dave0123

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Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« on: January 28, 2013, 10:43:17 pm »
hi guys.

Whats the pro/cons of a layflat or upright tank.. i am in two minds for which to buy for new vehicle. i want either 350 litres upright or layflat.

inital thoughts was upright.. but been thinking maybe layflat is better option so i can fit things on top like hose reel to work it out my side door, measuring an upright tank it would be squeeze to use a reel out the side door. However other worries are airlocks people have mentioned before in layflat tanks? but on plus sides it sits lower down on floor and must feel a smoother drive...duno wha to do.
Dave.

Scrimble

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 10:50:36 pm »
i dont like either, layflat tank you suffer annoying airlocks if you dont close the tap before you drive off when the water is low, you cant get to the last bit of the water unless you park your van on a curb! you will also feel sea sick from the movement of the water

upright tank effects the handling of the van a hell of a lot more in a bad way, and in an accident the tank is much more likey to more forward,

i dont like the upright/flat tank i wish they did them in a rectangle shap,

these custom tanks look really good but i asked for a price which came back as ridiculous http://www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk/

dave0123

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 10:52:11 pm »
I know where your coming from pain in the a*se.

Yeah i seen those tanks do look good... what sort of cash do they want for them.
Dave.

Scrimble

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 10:57:11 pm »
£500 for a 600litre rectangle tank, with a bucket holder, mat and a basic frame it was £800 (look at the red vw caddy pics)

R.C Property

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2013, 10:58:03 pm »
I know where your coming from pain in the a*se.

Yeah i seen those tanks do look good... what sort of cash do they want for them.

I got a lay flat 250 tank, never had airlock in it from day one! Even when tank is empty! That's because I fitted non return valves to the pipe work deforestation the pumps so no water runs back from them.

But do agree there is more movement with the water as there is a larger area for it to move about.


dave0123

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2013, 11:01:31 pm »
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But do agree there is more movement with the water as there is a larger area for it to move about.

I thought the layflat tanks were a bit better for driving around in than the upright ones? or is it layflats that feel worse
Dave.

dave0123

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2013, 11:05:20 pm »
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£500 for a 600litre rectangle tank, with a bucket holder, mat and a basic frame it was £800 (look at the red vw caddy pics)

pricey but do look good
Dave.

easy clean

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 11:06:40 pm »
I've had both in 650. litre, lay flat every time!!!

R.C Property

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 11:07:02 pm »
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But do agree there is more movement with the water as there is a larger area for it to move about.

I thought the layflat tanks were a bit better for driving around in than the upright ones? or is it layflats that feel worse

With mine when half full and put breaks on all you get is a wave effect splashing forward and back, you feel the motion, when I first drove my van, it made me have a slight sea sickness feel.

Fin Clearview

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 11:09:08 pm »
I have a 600 upright in my traffic, it does slosh about a bit but i live by the sea anyway! I like the space the upright allows though loadsa room for everything.

dave0123

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013, 11:11:17 pm »
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With mine when half full and put breaks on all you get is a wave effect splashing forward and back, you feel the motion, when I first drove my van, it made me have a slight sea sickness feel.


see what u mean yeah.. i imagine an upright would be near the same too with the force pushing the van foward
Dave.

R.C Property

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 11:18:14 pm »
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With mine when half full and put breaks on all you get is a wave effect splashing forward and back, you feel the motion, when I first drove my van, it made me have a slight sea sickness feel.


see what u mean yeah.. i imagine an upright would be near the same too with the force pushing the van foward

depends, could make it out of 2 smaller tanks, like some 500lt systems are made with 2 250lt upright tanks plumbed together,

dave0123

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2013, 11:32:42 pm »
Oh i just thought the layflat tanks where a smoother drive in the van less sloshing about and better MPG because of the low center of gravity and all that
Dave.

R.C Property

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2013, 11:35:14 pm »
Oh i just thought the layflat tanks where a smoother drive in the van less sloshing about and better MPG because of the low center of gravity and all that

they might be, i can only go by the 250lt tank in my van, you do get used to it, other tanks sizes may be better.

Mike #1

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2013, 06:42:37 am »
I have a 400 ltr flat tank in my L200 pick-up and never have any problems as already pointed out it is far safer and will give you just as much space in your van as an upright as you can just put cloths etc on top of tank . Mike

SPE

Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2013, 09:05:07 am »
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But do agree there is more movement with the water as there is a larger area for it to move about.

I thought the layflat tanks were a bit better for driving around in than the upright ones? or is it layflats that feel worse

With mine when half full and put breaks on all you get is a wave effect splashing forward and back, you feel the motion, when I first drove my van, it made me have a slight sea sickness feel.
I have a 650 L layflat tank and I think the baffles are completely inadequate.
This is what I did to combat the sloshing movement of water,
I stuffed 25 meters of this into my tank http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Drainage-Perforated-80mm-x-25m-coil-/260726903305?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cb488d209
It has been very effective and made a big difference  ;)
Simon

EandM

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2013, 11:00:14 am »
Layflats lower the centre of gravity and make the vehicle more stable and uprights take up less space.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2013, 11:43:30 am »
hi guys.

Whats the pro/cons of a layflat or upright tank.. i am in two minds for which to buy for new vehicle. i want either 350 litres upright or layflat.

inital thoughts was upright.. but been thinking maybe layflat is better option so i can fit things on top like hose reel to work it out my side door, measuring an upright tank it would be squeeze to use a reel out the side door. However other worries are airlocks people have mentioned before in layflat tanks? but on plus sides it sits lower down on floor and must feel a smoother drive...duno wha to do.

I always go layflat - (650; 400 in vans; 200 in trailer) one reel on top out the side door and one out the back.
If size is not an absolute issue I would go for a 400 over a 350.
It's a game of three halves!

steven ainger

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Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2013, 12:17:38 pm »
depends, could make it out of 2 smaller tanks, like some 500lt systems are made with 2 250lt upright tanks plumbed together,
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Ive got 2 upright 250 tanks linked secured in a frame.
Very stable and doesnt take up too much room.


Re: Pros/Cons of a upright and layflat tank.
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2013, 01:26:03 pm »
You could always take the top off a load of plastic bottles. Cut the bottom off as well and you have your baffles to stop the effect of the sloshing.