[Stephen Fox]

Are you saying that the weights Alex has pit up are wrong? Can you guarantee the weights you have published? Maybe someone who owns one of the poles can weight it and confirm.

Lee, according to our scales YES! I would like to see the Gardiner pole range weighed side by side using the same scales and measured lengths. You only need to look at the Gardiner site to see the 22 CLX/SLX is only a 20ft pole when converted from metres. So I find that a little rich.

In all honesty I would rather an owner/user do the comparison of the products than a manufacturer trying to slate other manufacturers as we see here.

[elite mike]

i think alex is pretty honest

[Dave Willis]

I wouldn't call him pretty! He's always been honest though.

[ben M]

I wouldn't call him pretty! He's always been honest though.

totally agree!

[KS Cleaning]

The marketing for the Pheonix poles was going well until the revelation...All base sections on the pheonix carbon poles are glassfibre ....unlike the Gardiner carbon poles which have an insulation wrap over the CARBON

[Lee GLS]

The marketing for the Pheonix poles was going well until the revelation...All base sections on the pheonix carbon poles are glassfibre ....unlike the Gardiner carbon poles which have an insulation wrap over the CARBON

My slx has a glassfiber base sectionn

[ben M]

The marketing for the Pheonix poles was going well until the revelation...All base sections on the pheonix carbon poles are glassfibre ....unlike the Gardiner carbon poles which have an insulation wrap over the CARBON

My slx has a glassfiber base sectionn

you must have an old slx!

[Stephen Fox]

The marketing for the Pheonix poles was going well until the revelation...All base sections on the pheonix carbon poles are glassfibre ....unlike the Gardiner carbon poles which have an insulation wrap over the CARBON

Depends on how good the Glassfibre is!

[Mike #1]

If the base section of the carbon phoenix is fiberglass then it should be a lot cheaper than the SlX , Which it is by about £90 , based on the Phoenix 26  and the SLX 25 , which both have an advertised reach of 30ft . Mike

[Rogue Trader]

has anyone actually used a carbon or hybrid phoenix pole ............................................... no point talking about specs and weights , the only review has been on a glass fiber one which seems a waste of time IMO

[gary999]

i find it interesting how a supplier has jumped in on about a post to do with
another supplier under the guise of honesty

bad form really

this pole must be decent when the competition has to comment...could be worth looking
at!

[Mike #1]

Totally agree

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

the supplier was letting us know the facts. Am i right?

[Small but perfectley formed]

I have a Phoenix carbon 18 and the same slx plus 22ft slx
All the pole s a good but my opinion is the Phoenix is slightly better because I prefer the clamps and also you do not get black hands .
As for the weight it feels identical when being used .
Time will tell if the Phoenix is really good when it has had more use .

[gary999]

the supplier was letting us know the facts. Am i right?

but are they the facts

[Cliff perkins]

I agree with alex competition is good for every1 keeps the suppliers motivated.
Alex if you want a review on the new fan jets send 2 my way :-)

[gary999]

i dont think anyone would disagree that competition is good for everyone
bit of a obvious statement to make far as im concerned.

im a bit disapointed that alex gardiner has felt the need to comment at all,i always admired the fact
he didnt get involved in industry tit for tat nonsense and let his products stand alone
without the need to comment on others.

wont stop me buying brushes and resin when needed though

[Nameless Drudge]

i dont think anyone would disagree that competition is good for everyone
bit of a obvious statement to make far as im concerned.

im a bit disapointed that alex gardiner has felt the need to comment at all,i always admired the fact
he didnt get involved in industry tit for tat nonsense and let his products stand alone
without the need to comment on others.

wont stop me buying brushes and resin when needed though

If you cannot grasp what is going on here then perhaps you should not comment either!

     "tit for tat nonsense",suggests the IMPORTANCE of using the lightest available product capable of the rigours of the job has not penetrated your psyche yet. If you don`t want to avoid the painkillers then that is up to you.

[wfp master]

so these poles are NOT the weights & lengths advertised.false advertising.
also have a fibreglass base section. so facelift are ripping people who buy these poles off.looks like they have been found out. bunch of chancers i will not be buying from them cant be trusted. ARE YOU BRODEX IN DISGUISE.

[Stephen Fox]

so these poles are NOT the weights & lengths advertised.false advertising.
also have a fibreglass base section. so facelift are ripping people who buy these poles off.looks like they have been found out. bunch of chancers i will not be buying from them cant be trusted. ARE YOU BRODEX IN DISGUISE.

Sfwc, wow that's a pretty damning and slanderous statement. I take it you don't own/never used/seen let alone held a Phoenix pole to make outlandish remarks like that?

Why don't actually ask someone who has a pole to give you a real review (not a supplier) and compare?