[Avo]

I can't believe we are still on this subject tbh..

[EandM]

As a Painter of many 25 years I've yet to find a more effective method of wall cleaning than diluted bleach, applied with a 12" Roller on a pole and then hosed off.
Pressure washing is always a little risky, partly because it absolutely soaks the render and unless it's mid-Summer (ha ha) you can't guarantee that it will dry out quickly enough to overpaint with water based masonry paint. If using resin based eg Pliolite or Dulux All Seasons a potentially damp wall is catastrophic. There is always the problem of the pressure blowing away small pieces of wall as well or finding it's way into elderly damp courses.

Second best and sometimes the best depending on how bad the surface is DI water. It algae dissolving properties are close to those of bleach if not quite so quick.

[boshravie]

I am afraid you are arguing without even tested the product.

So you don’t know the true facts about this product,
you don’t even know me, and you are judging me as to how I do business? 
sorry but I don’t business the way you think I do. 
You already know that blue tried the product and he put out a lengthy positive feed back about this product. So I don’t have to do that much of advertising for it. 

To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t want a customer who is putting me and the product  down without testing, because even if he had tried it, he would still find faults in it.

[gary999]

Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  

I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.

i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!

[Dave Willis]

If you read my post properly I actually said your product appears to be good, I also said If it was competitively priced I'd have some.
Now guys like Blue and many others test different cleaning products and share their findings with this forum. Unfortunately rather than share you've decided to make a profit from the forum. Shame really.

[rosskesava]

To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t want a customer who is putting me and the product  down without testing, because even if he had tried it, he would still find faults in it.

Without meaning to sound rude, there's no way of knowing that so it's probably best not to say or write it.

Bosh - defending your product is a sign that you believe in it but it's best done in a positive and diplomatic manner. It actually comes across very negative on your part and all it does it encourage the 'have a bash' brigade.

I used your magica stuff on some guttering today and it got most of the black mould of fine.

For me who has used it, it don't matter what gets written because at some point, I'll probably buy some more. For others who might try it or are thinking about it, not only does having a go become a distraction, but it can put them off even trying it.

[boshravie]

To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t want a customer who is putting me and the product  down without testing, because even if he had tried it, he would still find faults in it.

Without meaning to sound rude, there's no way of knowing that so it's probably best not to say or write it.

Bosh - defending your product is a sign that you believe in it but it's best done in a positive and diplomatic manner. It actually comes across very negative on your part and all it does it encourage the 'have a bash' brigade.

I used your magica stuff on some guttering today and it got most of the black mould of fine.

For me who has used it, it don't matter what gets written because at some point, I'll probably buy some more. For others who might try it or are thinking about it, not only does having a go become a distraction, but it can put them off even trying it.

Point taken.

you see I am always positive person in life, and if you look at my other posts, I never ever put anyone down, even if they wrong.  but unfortunately, there some on here that are out  just to try putting me or the product  down without any  evidence, and I am sorry but there are times that I have to defend my integrity.

[boshravie]

Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  

I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.

i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!

That’s your point of view.
I am not Alex and I don’t doubt that he has done a great thing for this industry, he may not say it, but he has help us all to have an easier life in terms of every day work  with water fed pole.

I don’t find that patronizing and doing one over people.

[gary999]

Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  

I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.

i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!

That’s your point of view.
I am not Alex and I don’t doubt that he has done a great thing for this industry, he may not say it, but he has help us all to have an easier life in terms of every day work  with water fed pole.

I don’t find that patronizing and doing one over people.

he has helped in every day work by developing a product that is good and his backup service is excellent
but he isnt waffling on here how he wants to help everyone he is a businessman he is straight down the line with it there is no bullpoop.

you are giving people the wrong impression read back your own posts,you are not doing your
brand any favours.

froggy is a spot on guy and has given you a glowing reference but even with that reference
im not keen on the idea of buying from you,something wrong somewhere

[G Griffin]

Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  

I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.

i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!

That’s your point of view.
I am not Alex and I don’t doubt that he has done a great thing for this industry, he may not say it, but he has help us all to have an easier life in terms of every day work  with water fed pole.

I don’t find that patronizing and doing one over people.

Alex G helps himself and rightfully so. People help themselves (or try to) by buying his products. It's a mutually beneficial deal. When either- or both- stop benefitting, then we'll see how great a thing it is that he's done.

[Blue Frog Systems]

ill sell you a bottle for £20 gary but you will have to pick it up

[rosskesava]

Mugs!!!!!

Why?

[Perfect Windows]

Why is this on the window cleaning forum?

[Avo]

Mugs!!!!!

Why?

Because your buying into this... Bosh maybe a really nice guy but he's a naughty boy 

[Dave.]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the fibres on an unflocked brush were cut square at the end and this helps their cleaning ability.
as they wear, they become rounded, and this reduces their effectiveness.

Using a water fed pole against masonary for a period of time is going to speed up the wearing process?

I clean walls with a pressure washer - using a extendable lance - sometimes with a 12" flat surface cleaner attached.  Flacking paint & render are usually easy to spot and discussed with the customer prior to cleaning.

I'll try the paint roller with hypo technique next time I clean a 'green' house

Dave

[Tom White]

Why is this on the window cleaning forum?

I think it comes under the heading of an 'add on' to window cleaning, so it's fair game in my books.

Just like the 'Gutter and soffit cleaning post' that no-one has complained about.

[rosskesava]

Because your buying into this... Bosh maybe a really nice guy but he's a naughty boy  

Buying a bottle of some cleaning stuff to try out is hardly 'buying into this'. I do the same when my local cleaning supplier gets new stuff in.

Why Boshravie a naughty boy?

[William McCafferty]

Hi Bosh

I have just watched your video and personally I cannot see any difference between this product and others I use on a weekly basis.

Like jp I like to try different chemicals, equipment and methods to speed up my cleaning process.

On first cleans I cleans everything that is white and in the customers eyeline, I have not done a staircase yet, but I have washed down the walls and porches which have been lot dirtier than the one you showed.

I have tried various products and all do clean to some degree, some of the products I use come from the carpet cleaning, car washes, engine cleaners and even sainsburys, where I get nector points.

While I am not knocking your product or method of conducting business, I do feel that you need to show how this product compares with the other chemicals and diffrent cleaning methods that are being used on a daily basis.

In the early days Alex did the same, he showed how his poles compared with others on the market and let the potential customers decide.

Pricewise, charge what you like, I use to have a shop and market stall, I would buy my products double the price, add 20%  and that would be the price I sell at, if you are to high for the product compared to others on the market then you won't sell many, if you sell loads and make net profit, then why worry what people say about your charges.

[Avo]

Mr Boshravie  I have a good idea what Magica One is and were you get it from. If it is what I think it is ITS GOOD.

[boshravie]

Why is this on the window cleaning forum?

I think it comes under the heading of an 'add on' to window cleaning, so it's fair game in my books.

Just like the 'Gutter and soffit cleaning post' that no-one has complained about.

Thanks Tosh