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tacky

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 08:13:13 pm »
as andy m said .ball stuck in gutter kids threw something or tried to knock it down with brush or sumat

keyser soze

  • Posts: 1694
Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 09:14:09 pm »
sounds to me it was more likely to have been kids . the ball in the garden does look fishy . saying all that the custy seems adamant it was you so be prepared for her to take it further.on the other hand would it be to much of a problem to go through your ins it wouldnt cost a fortune and you get to keep the contract....

scud

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 09:18:24 pm »
  I do not believe you could break a glass roof panel with a wfp brush even if you tried, the only way would be to tap an exposed edge of the glass.

  To shatter a pain like that it would need to be a sharp edge hitting the surface with a fair bit of force, I'd bet you could take a swing with your pole and brush and it would just bounce off, you would even be hard pushed to break it with a lump hammer.

  It takes a very small point of impact to create enough pressure to break glass and there is no way you could generate enough force with your pole and brush, I would even be tempted to demonstrate on another of the roof panels.

dazmond

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2012, 09:46:52 pm »
if it wasnt you who shattered the glass then its simply not your problem!!i would want to get paid too!why not?you ve done the work,you deserve to get paid!!

i would simply say "im sorry love it wasnt anything to do with me and you owe me xxxx amount for the clean.i would like to think my customers trust me and would think that i would own up if i had broke it.

if it wasnt you there is nothing she can do about it.if she starts being funny with you then the trust between her and you has been broken.in that case after explaining yourself dump and move on.

i wouldnt worry about it.


best wishes


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

jay kingston

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2012, 09:49:29 pm »
Rich

Like everyone else don't admit liability
No witnesses,so they are p*ss* ng in the
Wind.Hope you get it sorted

Regards Jay


AuRavelling79

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2012, 09:54:16 pm »
She heard a bang while you were working but didn't come out and she didn't come to the door when you rang to tell them you'd finished? And there was a football that disappeared?

Result: = You didn't do it and you want your money ...
It's a game of three halves!

P @ F

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2012, 09:59:15 pm »
No way on earth im putting it on my ins , thats like telling them i did it ,

And Scud , i said the same thing to my other half , she said no cos with your luck lately there would be 2 broken panes !

Im just gonna ride the bus and see where it takes me , i reckon i will pull through , i cant help but think the ball had a massive part in this , who ever owned it could have done me a favour by moving it on the sly today , the wife said that the husband and her went out last night upon finding the broken pane to look on the floor for fallen debris , none was found but the ball must have been there then as it was still there until at least 2.30 today , one of them must have seen it , but now its gone , as i pointed out to her !

Rich
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Londoner

Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2012, 10:08:02 pm »
This may be a long shot but is the area flown over by planes? My mate is a ground engineer at Heathrow and he has said several times you wouldn't believe the bits they find on the runways. Nuts and bolts are common. Even spanners.  They all have to be picked up and recorded. Just a thought. You want to look around inside. Also look at the roof and see if any tiles are missing. Its quite common to find large(ish) chunks of cement on conny roofs. I'm sure any experienced conny cleaner will vouch for that.

bobby p

Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2012, 10:23:57 pm »
id say the odds are it Was summat to do with you.  out of 365 days of the year the only day it broke was the day you were near it 

P @ F

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2012, 10:53:42 pm »
Tell me that was humour bobby ?
Im dry , but there is a line !

Rich
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

rosskesava

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 11:12:35 pm »
id say the odds are it Was summat to do with you.  out of 365 days of the year the only day it broke was the day you were near it  

I was waiting at a set of traffic lights today and two cars going across the junction had a prang. The one day every 3 months I go that way, an accident happened. Therefore, I must have caused it or have had something to do with the accident happening.

The grounds of probability are not that the one day he's there, the window ends up broken so therefore......... The grounds of probability are that as he cleans windows 50 odd weeks a year without windows shattering, therefore.........

If Rich didn't break the glass, he didn't break it. He probably will never know if the lady knows how it got broke or if she's genuine in her thinking that he broke it.

If it had been me, the conversation would have ended at the phone call. That may sound a little harsh but what would going to have a look achieve? It would end up with me saying I didn't break it, and the lady saying I must have which would be the same as was said during the phone call.

Rich - as you didn't break the glass, your conscience is clear and that is all that matters. The lady will think what she wants irrespective of what you say. My advise is to phone her or go and see her and say just that and that as far as you're concerned, that's the end of your part in how the glass got broken because you didn't do it.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

deeege

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2012, 11:14:04 pm »
id say the odds are it Was summat to do with you.  out of 365 days of the year the only day it broke was the day you were near it 

This can't be a serious post..... But just incase it is.......

If he cleaned their windows once per year then that makes it a 365/1 chance. However I assume he cleans monthly so 365/12=30. Not such a coincidence it happened on the day he was cleaning there now is it bobby?

Personally I'd say you have spent far too much time on this mystery already. It wasn't you, move on and forget about it.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

davids3511

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2012, 11:14:31 pm »
id say the odds are it Was summat to do with you.  out of 365 days of the year the only day it broke was the day you were near it  
Yeah but he is probably there every month so 12/365 or a 1 in 30 chance which isn't beyond possibility.

Tom White

Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2012, 11:16:22 pm »
id say the odds are it Was summat to do with you.  out of 365 days of the year the only day it broke was the day you were near it  

I was waiting at a set of traffic lights today and two cars going across the junction had a prang. The one day every 3 months I go that way, an accident happened. Therefore, I must have caused it or have had something to do with the accident happening.

The grounds of probability are not that the one day he's there, the window ends up broken so therefore......... The grounds of probability are that as he cleans windows 50 odd weeks a year without windows shattering, therefore.........

If Rich didn't break the glass, he didn't break it. He probably will never know if the lady knows how it got broke or if she's genuine in her thinking that he broke it.

If it had been me, the conversation would have ended at the phone call. That may sound a little harsh but what would going to have a look achieve? It would end up with me saying I didn't break it, and the lady saying I must have which would be the same as was said during the phone call.

Rich - as you didn't break the glass, your conscience is clear and that is all that matters. The lady will think what she wants irrespective of what you say. My advise is to phone her or go and see her and say just that and that as far as you're concerned, that's the end of your part in how the glass got broken because you didn't do it.


What Wossy said.

My clear analytical thinking has obviously rubbed off on him.

You, Wossy, have a lot to be grateful to me for.

rosskesava

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2012, 11:18:38 pm »

What Wossy said.

My clear analytical thinking has obviously rubbed off on him.

You, Wossy, have a lot to be grateful to me for.

Isn't it the other way round?  ;D
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Tom White

Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2012, 11:26:58 pm »

What Wossy said.

My clear analytical thinking has obviously rubbed off on him.

You, Wossy, have a lot to be grateful to me for.

Isn't it the other way round?  ;D

Your thinking is still a little fuzzy.  ;D

bad trippy

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2012, 11:40:49 pm »
She was there, heard a bang whilst u were cleaning, and didnt go check it out?
Although she was in and heard you cleaning, she did not answer the door?
There was a ball there, now there aint?
No debri in the gutters?
Mate if you smashed this glass panel you would have known about it in a fraction of a second.
Now if you done it and decided to do a runner, why would you knock her door for the money after you had finished cleaning?
Presumably if she heard you smash her conny roof, she would also have heard you knock the door.
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rosskesava

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Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2012, 11:41:44 pm »

Your thinking is still a little fuzzy.  ;D

Nope. Clear as a bell.

Anyway, I was on this forum before you were.

Also, this is now going off topic and should be moderated as such. Windows_Chepstow would have already done that.  ;D

Also also, what Trippy said above. Yup. Sounds like a stitch up.




Added later: Windows_Chepstow was Tosh's name in the early days of CIU when he was 100% trad and liked to wear womens clothing.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Tom White

Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2012, 11:42:59 pm »
However I assume he cleans monthly so 365/12=30.

Why did you divide 365 by 12?  When I went to skool there was more than 12 days in a month.

You mean 365/30=12

Sheesh.

 ;D

bobby p

Re: Smashed conny roof (HELP)
« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2012, 06:32:26 am »



having slept on it , i agree with the other barroom lawyers in that it Could be a stone dropped by a crow, the football or tile

  at the end of the day if you never let your brush touch that glass or knocked a stone off a sill its not your problem.  id rather lose her as a customer ten times over than pay up.  but if your brush touched that glass the other day,id pay