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davids3511

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Van bust
« on: April 29, 2012, 01:27:24 pm »
Pulled off driveway last night, got about 50 yards and the van rolled to a halt. The engine is still running, but very high pitched engine noise. No power, if I try to move the engine cuts out. Called aa out, apparantly the engine pulled out of its mounts and dropped over to one side, it would be the side with the cam belt. He recons the belt jumped a few notches and damaged the engine. He said it could probably be saved as it is running but will need to be rebuilt.

Just what I needed.

keyser soze

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 01:31:29 pm »
how did it pull out from its mounts , what van was it and how old

davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 01:42:23 pm »
No idea how it pulled out. It was a w reg scudo.

magic moments

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 01:53:26 pm »
Probably cost more then vans worth if you get a garage to do it,could do yourself if you know your way round the engine for maybe 200,probably bent a few valves

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 01:54:33 pm »
shud be more than 200
my vivaro did the same 137 quid
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davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 01:57:18 pm »
I don't have a clue how to do it myself. That's what the aa guy said, probably bent valves.

The thing with replacing that van is that you need to have the cash to do it. I have the 500 or so it will take to replace the valves (a guess) but don't have 3/4k for a replacement van.

davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 01:58:12 pm »
shud be more than 200
my vivaro did the same 137 quid
Did you do it yourself though? I thought it was a big job like replaceing a head gasket?

magic moments

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 02:05:31 pm »
Yep you would have to replace headgasket at sametime along with ,messing with cambelts etc,a garage will charge you more then 500 mate,I doubt they give a proper price untill they see the damage when the head is off

davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 02:07:16 pm »
I have a mobile guy who is quite reasonable. He recently changed a snapped wishbone for £60.00 so I am hoping he won't be garage prices.

davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 03:27:39 pm »
So guys any idea what I'm looking at using a mobile guy if I'm lucky and its just bent valves?

magic moments

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 04:16:30 pm »
I used to be a full time mechanic,when I left school i think you be lucky for anything under 700 to be honest,but it could have bent a few valves ,possibly damaged top of pistons but unlikely.

david wood

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 04:17:13 pm »
 thats bad news dave .do you want to spend any more money on the van end its life and move on :'(

stuart mc

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 04:28:29 pm »
mine did it last year, a dispatch, I got away with a new engine mount cost about £70 quid, valves were not damaged, the high pitched noise is more likely the cam belt rubbing, I fixed mine myself

sparkleglass

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 05:03:01 pm »
the engine never gets back to normal  ( if its the head ) spend the money on a new van  :o

Window Washers

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 05:07:44 pm »
shud be more than 200
my vivaro did the same 137 quid
137 for what to open up look at it ?, if hes damaged the head in anyway it is going to cost a great deal of money and as already said it will never run the same.

I hope for his sake £137 is the bill but would not be optimistic
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davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 06:45:26 pm »
I can get a running scrappy engine for 250. Would it be cheaper to get that fitted instead of stripping down engine?

stuart mc

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 07:03:31 pm »
david buy nothing until you try the following, get a bit of wood and gently jack the engine back into position, then start and you may find it runs just fine then, if it does you just need to get the engine mount bolted back up, on my van one of the bolts had sheared off and I had to replace the part that the mount bolts into

magic moments

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2012, 07:09:11 pm »
Good advice above,if not that get some prices,but if you have a w reg scudo you can pick them up around 1000

davids3511

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2012, 07:32:54 pm »
david buy nothing until you try the following, get a bit of wood and gently jack the engine back into position, then start and you may find it runs just fine then, if it does you just need to get the engine mount bolted back up, on my van one of the bolts had sheared off and I had to replace the part that the mount bolts into
I hope this is the case but I'm not usually that lucky. Will try jacking it up tomorrow.

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Van bust
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2012, 07:36:59 pm »
my engine mount snapped didnt
damage the engine  ;)
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