[john martin]

if i were to buy another porty it would be the  new Ashby`s one looks the dogs danglies.

I like this ' dell PC ' style custom build facility ....
They really embrace the waterlift over CFM school of thought  , perhaps putting some potential customers off , airflow seems to be selling most extractors now , im sure lift has its advantages , perhaps on shorter runs , that most of us use on most jobs really .
Still you could buy and modify to parallel if desired or add some of the newer vacs .
Wonder how many they sell , none by the looks of it from this forum ... but perhaps most CC's aren't even on the forums ...  hmm

http://www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.co.uk/enforcer-machine-only-custom-built-to-your-specification-p-1064.html?number_of_uploads=0
 

[creighton foyle]

Mike, what annoyed me was a post which appeared on this thread Saturday morning last, it was clearly a below the belt attack on someone who has done so much for this industry, totally uncalled for and having no bearing on any machine. I did not have time to vent my anger as I hurrying off to work but resolved to reply on my return on Saturday night. However in the meantime some modreator rightly decided to delete the post but it would still have been seen by many people.

Fintan IT WAS ME

 but lets not revisit it as i am now in a legally advised position to be able to repeat it in a way that will leave no one in doubt as to who we are talking about but more importantly i know know how to say it in a different way without leaving myself open to legal threats.

so bite your lip coz he wo'nt thank you for it.

[Jim_77]

I just specced up an enforcer to a reasonable level... certainly didn't select the most expensive add-ons but the final price came to..... £4,000!!!!  Sod off!!  Double your investment and you've got a truckmount, which is more than double the performance of that machine!!

I can't believe they offer 2x2 stage vacs as a standard option and get this... 70 psi pump!! WTF??!!  They really are stuck in the stone age!!

[john martin]

You ordered everything 

Mine would be basic motor + 600psi+built in 3000w steammate  = 2900
Then custom fit motors of choice ...  two 6.6/8.4 or two electro three or two stage




Hard to beat the Alltec elite 500 for price though  ..

12gallon body + pumptec+ 3000w internal  + two three stage for 2200
then add motors of choice

[Darren O]

At the moment i woudnt swap my Powerflight 1350 for any of them

[derek west]

At the moment i woudnt swap my Powerflight 1350 for any of them

agree with darren, i wouldn't swap my boxxer 421 for any of them

[jasonl]

At the moment i woudnt swap my Powerflight 1350 for any of them

agree with darren, i wouldn't swap my boxxer 421 for any of them

If I were into extraction machines , I would not buy a new plastic tub with a few electric motors in it , then again nor would I buy a new lawn  mower motor with a HX and blower attached .

Proper machine to me is a water cooled diesel.

[AJB]

Darren have you tried your Powrflite with 100 ft of hose.
Contrary to what everyone believes, ie series motors can't
use long runs etc, mine works fantastically at 100 ft, though
i do admit to one drying stroke over 50 ft.

[Fintan_Coll]

Creighton, neither you or anyone else will ever stop me from speaking my mind on any subject which I should wish to comment on.

[john martin]

Around 2004 I bought my first Cross- American machine, the Recoil. A few years later I bought a new Scorpion with the the upgrades which John and Nick had a major input. Last year I bought one of the first Jaguars. I have all three machines, all working perfectly and find any of them more than adequate for the work I do which is mainly domestic with some light commercial work. I use them in rotation and depending on the job in hand although the Recoil is now not used very often but great to have as a spare backup.
I cannot say a bad word about Ed, John or Nick and have found all three most helpful and great people to know.
Equally , I am sure the people who make the Airflex would fall into the same category but unfortunately I do not know them but judging by thr comments of other posters they are a good company too.
The original poster just asked for comparisons on the two machines but some people seem to take delight from putting the knife into Cross American an Solution for some reason. A hidden agenda no doubt. One gets really sick of reading those negative and nasty postings all the time. So sick that I am considering taking the same route that Joe Hatton took a while back.

Your here a lot longer  than me , i dont know anything of the history or issues with solution , i'v been critical of the CA machine at times , but pros and cons to all these machines , everyone should stick up for whatever they find works well for them like you say , great you have three generations of CA machines maintained  btw

[creighton foyle]

Creighton, neither you or anyone else will ever stop me from speaking my mind on any subject which I should wish to comment on.

fintan it was not my intention to do so but as you seem to have an admirable loyalty to the business in question and expressed an anger for what was said i felt the need to

 a) confess to being the author of the post (in case you had not noted my name) whilst at the same time let you know i was prepared to further justify what i had said with hard facts( should you pursue the issue ) that would probably be detrimental to the business you are attempting to defend.
i apologise to you you for any offence you may have taken personally but stand by any thing else i have said on this subject.

[Ian Gourlay]

John

What I do not like about Ashbys is the way they hide price  as Jim says by the time you add everything up they are expensive compared with other suppliers

[Shaun_Ashmore]

All car manufacturers do the add on bit BMW are one of the worst for it IMO it's package selling at its best.

I do agree with you Ian when I bought my porti from nick it was a price to buy and that's it I believe Matt does the same but in all fairness the prices are on ashbys and not hidden.

Shaun

[Fintan_Coll]

Apology accepted Creighton. Anyone can post something and in hindsight wish they never had. I am sure it will not deter the gentleman in question in any way.

[John Milnes]

Ian Gourlay said,
What I do not like about Ashbys is the way they hide price  as Jim says by the time you add everything up they are expensive compared with other suppliers

I find that independant suppliers can be despicable in thier charges. Ashbys waste tank float switch for example £28....or from an internet or ebay supplier £8.50 ? However thier pump repair kits seem to be the cheapest around.

Cleansmart transperant fill tank lid for Airflex £25? for a part that probably costs no more than a few quid to make.

[Carpet Dawg]

Ian Gourlay said,
What I do not like about Ashbys is the way they hide price  as Jim says by the time you add everything up they are expensive compared with other suppliers

I find that independant suppliers can be despicable in thier charges. Ashbys waste tank float switch for example £28....or from an internet or ebay supplier £8.50 ? However thier pump repair kits seem to be the cheapest around.

Cleansmart transperant fill tank lid for Airflex £25? for a part that probably costs no more than a few quid to make.

You'd be suprised! Infact i'm sure the suppliar makes very little if anything at all on these type of parts.

Manufacturing items from sctrach is an expensive task.

I broke my Airflex lid too