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john tomkins

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Re: Van tank - up against the bulkhead or not?
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2012, 01:00:39 pm »
You're all assuming accidents only happen with a tank FULL of water, just make sure if you're gonna have one, make it the end of the working day  :)

Dave Willis

Re: Van tank - up against the bulkhead or not?
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2012, 03:34:11 pm »
One guy on here is so confident his tank is "going nowhere" because he's fixed it to the bulkhead with spreader plates and ratchet straps.
I might have got the wrong end of the stick and he should be fairly safe I suppose .............................. provided he drives backwards everywhere!

[GQC] Tim

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Re: Van tank - up against the bulkhead or not?
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2012, 04:15:51 pm »
and yet 97% of people (according to golds pole) have not personally heard of anyone whose tank has gone thru bulkhead or injured someone apparently.......

you'd have thought it would be higher with the amount of cowboys like me out there with our straps.....

And you think 57 people that never heard of any accident involving water tanks is a good size test sample group to risk your live for, with simple physics that can't be disputed working 100% against you. Seriously? :-\

Dave Willis

Re: Van tank - up against the bulkhead or not?
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2012, 04:39:33 pm »
A bit like smoking I suppose - the warning signs are there only many choose to ignore them.

When I started I ratchet strapped 650l to the floor with spreader plates only under the floor. I thought the Ionics crash test was a load of rubbish to be honest. One day I tried to remove the tank with less than an inch of water - I couldn't lift it at all, not even one end. It dawned on me then the colossal weight of water. 


Re: Van tank - up against the bulkhead or not? New
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2012, 06:28:51 pm »
and yet 97% of people (according to golds pole) have not personally heard of anyone whose tank has gone thru bulkhead or injured someone apparently.......

you'd have thought it would be higher with the amount of cowboys like me out there with our straps.....

And you think 57 people that never heard of any accident involving water tanks is a good size test sample group to risk your live for, with simple physics that can't be disputed working 100% against you. Seriously? :-\

it's definitely by no means conclusive. and even if it was 500 people, it still wouldn't be conclusive. a test (or several) in varying test environments where a load is up against the bulkhead and 'better' restrained than what is shown in ionics etc video would be conclusive.

I know personally a whole heap of window cleaners. I also know of quite a few who have had accidents, some big enough to 'write off' their vehicle. yet none of them got injured or killed by their tanks. this, too, isn't proof. but my reasoning is that surely more people would have known some more ppl injured in this mini poll.

for sure having a load properly secured is safer than the huge question mark over bulkhead integrity, tie down points, bungees (!) etc. No doubting it!  but I feel perhaps  there is a certain amount of scaremainering also. that or maybe everyone has been lucky and not had big enough smashes with enough water on board!

the likes of ionics etc would have a lot more converts to professionally fitted systems if their test was slightly more realistic, i.e. better secured, against the bulkhead....... as opposed to all I've seen on these tests so far. that being said it's on my to do list once I've collected my new tank tomorrow. don't know what that says ....that I agree it's got to be safer?!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Van tank - up against the bulkhead or not?
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2012, 06:36:19 pm »
and yet 97% of people (according to golds pole) have not personally heard of anyone whose tank has gone thru bulkhead or injured someone apparently.......

you'd have thought it would be higher with the amount of cowboys like me out there with our straps..... :D :o :P

It only needs to happen to you once to spoil your day.

Can you foresee a situation where, with a tank full of water, you hit something at 30mph (or worse)?

Well, I can, so mine's a Gardiners, thanks.

Vin