[Simon@arenaclean]

I'll stick with what I've got, thanks..... 

Of course, just clearing up any misunderstanding

[james roffey]

I have the Airflex Turbo, had it almost two years now and very happy with the machine and the supplier Mat at Cleansmart. its a well thought out and professional looking machine, i use it with 2 inch hose which increases the vac strength considerably, and sometimes use an inline heater called the Magma which is very useful on cold days like these and when you need a bit more power on those filthy end of tenancy jobs. i never take the machine in customers home i leave it outside and just run whatever hose length is required.

[feldon]

Having sold my kit in a moment of weakness a few weeks back I have decided to re-launch and invest in the Airflex Storm which I am collecting next week.  I started with an Airflex Pro 130 which although was a great start up machine I quickly found i wanted more power and upgraded to a second hand Scorpion which was a great improvement on power  but I sold this a few weeks ago and have now decided on the Storm.  Can't wait to try it out and put it to the test.

[feldon]

Picked my Airflex Storm yesterday and tried it out on my own carpets this morning and wow what a difference, really pleased with the performance and just over an hour later 80/20 wool mix carpet is nearly dry.  Having a glide on the wand also makes a massive difference. ;

[Ed Valentine]

John;

In all due respect, although I thought your post regarding myself, Mr. Bolton, and Mr. Sullins (all proven and terrific indoviduals known to most in this Industry as honorable) was shadowed with personal adjenda, here is what I believe you are looking for:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYYzWHUtWE&feature=colike



The very best to all;
Ed Valentine
cross-american.com

[john martin]

John;

In all due respect, although I thought your post regarding myself, Mr. Bolton, and Mr. Sullins (all proven and terrific indoviduals known to most in this Industry as honorable) was shadowed with personal adjenda, here is what I believe you are looking for:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYYzWHUtWE&feature=colike



The very best to all;
Ed Valentine
cross-american.com

   Ed , I saw that last week  ,  The 6.6 is performing well  , pity you didn't do the tests months ago ... although according to Mytee's John L , you delayed testing as the first runs of 6.6 didnt meet cfm spec , hence the 250 cfm recorded when mytee posted its video .Perhaps the first UK Jaguars are less powerfull than the new ones ?
I don't believe the Uk cfm result as it cant be explained by any data i can see from Ametek .
Also ... I sure a huge Laboratory like the one you used to measure  CFM had the ability to measure lift ... why not show that also ... perhaps because you still have the  misleading lift  figures on your website ... 263     that should read   130  ... but as Jan Sullins states he has only measured 115 to 120 ... so it still underachieves there ...

As for a personal agenda on my part  ....     I have nothing against you or cross American ,  i have given my opinion on various  design features i didn't like  when i owned a used Scorpion .
And you are just as bad as any of us ...  you constantly call other machines mere ' squirt and suck ' compared to yours ...  the ' generic Mee-too ' reference on your website is clearly having a go at Mytee .  I see you call someone who disagreed with you a ' cheapskate ' last week on a US forum  ... and you throll these boards for business without paying a penny to any of them ...
So don't suggest i have  ' an agenda ' for merely voicing my opinion .

[Colin Day]

Treading on thin ice there John....

You know how these Yanks love a libel case...

Mind you, they'd need to find out who you really are first..

You're wiser than I thought...... .

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Think you'll find that on most forums posts are taken as IMO as its all hearsay there's nothing to back up either argument.

Shaun

[John Milnes]

Goodness me.....

We have two companies with two machines. One advocates thiers is the one one and only, while the other remains silent.

We have posters who advocate the Airflex and others who advocate the Jaguar.

We are presented with youtube demos which demonstrate the differences between one vac and another  : all swings and roundabouts.

I'm astonished at the one upmanship of some people. 2 years ago a company (who I wont name) left me a voicemail discrediting one of the above companies to encourage me to buy one of their own machines. I was amazed that this guy had stooped so low.

Some people just don't know how to do business and seemingly feel threatened by competition.

[john martin]

Goodness me.....

We have two companies with two machines. One advocates thiers is the one one and only, while the other remains silent.

We have posters who advocate the Airflex and others who advocate the Jaguar.

We are presented with youtube demos which demonstrate the differences between one vac and another  : all swings and roundabouts.

I'm astonished at the one upmanship of some people. 2 years ago a company (who I wont name) left me a voicemail discrediting one of the above companies to encourage me to buy one of their own machines. I was amazed that this guy had stooped so low.

Some people just don't know how to do business and seemingly feel threatened by competition.

I don't think the companies got involved in fairness ...
There was a lot of one upmanship nonsence alright  , mostly Colin , and his hostility towards airflex    I wouldn't take it too serious ..

[Colin Day]

I've never used an Airflex, so I've never actually been in a position to comment on it's performance/reliability.

Anyway John, I'm saving up for your hand built "Wallace and Grommet Quadvac" you keep harping on about.

Will you be shipping them across the pond

[john martin]

I've never used an Airflex, so I've never actually been in a position to comment on it's performance/reliability.

Anyway John, I'm saving up for your hand built "Wallace and Grommet Quadvac" you keep harping on about.


Will you be shipping them across the pond

I'll put you on the list ...

While your waiting for that ...  im sure you could build a series booster for the jag to make it a quadvac ?   just mounted in a large toolbox ... couple of accessory planets 6.6 ?

 

[Russ Chadd]

Now now boys....
I have owned an Airflex turbo and it was a well made and well designed machine. However carpet cleaning machines are evolving and after doing much research i decided to move over to the Jag.
So far i have to say that the machines performance and reliability has been great! and i speak as a working carpet cleaning professional.

Im sure both storm and jag have their individual merits and negative points which is to be expected much the same as some new cars.
Its a learning curve... and if we all try to contribute positive thoughts into the development of future machines then we will all benefit.