[Helen]

After reading this thread I'm going back to them. Check out eBay for another system. Looking forward to halving my income 

You were never happy with all that spare money anyway, why make more? advertise the system for free

make that 2 systems now on ebay

So very very true, money doesn't make you happy..... Good luck back on the ladders, if you ever need someone to foot them, give me a call and I'll do it for free
(always said you couldn't make money at this game) .......................

[Frankybadboy]

i be on the phone in 5mins then helen.but come on you need to do some ladder work.

[Helen]

i be on the phone in 5mins then helen.but come on you need to do some ladder work.

 
Scared of heights and suffer from vertigo, go dizzy 2 foot off the ground, can get up ladders, but can't come down them, so wouldn't make any money at all, is that the idea?

Apparently when I foot ladders, I make them shake, so that must be brill for whoever is up them

[Frankybadboy]

i be on the phone in 5mins then helen.but come on you need to do some ladder work.

 
Scared of heights and suffer from vertigo, go dizzy 2 foot off the ground, can get up ladders, but can't come down them, so wouldn't make any money at all, is that the idea?

Apparently when I foot ladders, I make them shake, so that must be brill for whoever is up them

[SB Cleaning]

I have picked up loads of work off tradders in my area due to them not cleaning frames,cills, I have had a fair few only wanting a wfp cleaner

[dazmond]

also newbies buy the system and simply havent got the work to make it pay so sell up after a few months.

whether your trad or wfp, window cleaning in all weathers is hard work.some people cant handle hard work!!

pete i was once like you(trad 16 years)and couldnt really see the benefits of water fed pole.

nearly 2 years WFP now and its simply MILES BETTER IN EVERY WAY!!


more money earned

safer

ive picked up loads of work BECAUSE of WFP!!!


It takes a few months to get the hang of it properly though.


staying trad and climbing up to every upper window to clean it is madness in this day and age IMO.

[simbo]

the only people who slate wfp are those who don't have it and those who cannot use it properly!! Used properly there is no comparison to trad, 100% better quality.
paul

[Darranvps]

Surprisingly for me coming back into this industry in 2010 there has been a flood of "new" window cleaners using the waterfed pole technique of cleaning windows.

We approached many new companies when we started who had infact lost confidence in their window cleaners abilities who used the waterfed pole technique, although as it turned out they were using them incorrectly.

We encouraged customers to try us, and we proved to them that water fed poles are the only way to go, and so far they have all been delighted with the results we have provided them.

Being from a window cleaning background - I still insist that all my window cleaners can use traditional techniques like squeegeees and scrims etc

I have taken great notice and I realise that many "Window Cleaners" who use the waterfed pole are infact not window cleaners at all, they are people who think they have bought a magic wand! and think they will be able to clean windows correctly with it. Well sorry it really doesn't work like that. Window cleaning is not rocket science but it takes time to be come good at it.

We have just taken on an "experienced" window cleaner who has been cleaning windows with the waterfed pole system for his previous company for four years. When we showed him how to check the TDS of the outcoming water he thought we were having a laugh as he had NEVER checked water in four years and he took the van home and NEVER changed any filters during this time. He is a very hard worker, has a reasonably good technique, but it seems that his company did not understand the "technique" at all as who knows what TDS they were cleaning with?

For me, the waterfed pole is just another tool used for cleaning windows, but its a big help to the operator if he understands how to use it properly and be able to look at and clean glass properly.

All have a good day now

[Mist A Bit]

i`ve been using wfp for 3 years now and have to say my round wouldn`t of grown the way it has if i stayed trad. i stilll do trad on bungalows and shop fronts and will always use this meathod to. after mastering the pole i dont get any negitive comments from customers and they even comment saying "i cant belive how it dries and its cristal clear. i had problems with it when i started wfp as i had a lot to learn but now i can tackle windows with confidence .
 using ladders in this day and age is like watching a 14" black and white tv. we wouldn`t do it anymore. times have changed and for the better. Its still hard work with wfp and thats the reason systems are for sale. it takes a special kind of person to go out in all weathers constantly on the go and have the disapline to not stay at home cos you know their is no boss

[dave f]

dito

[carl stanton]

Nail on the head!!! 

Surprisingly for me coming back into this industry in 2010 there has been a flood of "new" window cleaners using the waterfed pole technique of cleaning windows.

We approached many new companies when we started who had infact lost confidence in their window cleaners abilities who used the waterfed pole technique, although as it turned out they were using them incorrectly.

We encouraged customers to try us, and we proved to them that water fed poles are the only way to go, and so far they have all been delighted with the results we have provided them.

Being from a window cleaning background - I still insist that all my window cleaners can use traditional techniques like squeegeees and scrims etc

I have taken great notice and I realise that many "Window Cleaners" who use the waterfed pole are infact not window cleaners at all, they are people who think they have bought a magic wand! and think they will be able to clean windows correctly with it. Well sorry it really doesn't work like that. Window cleaning is not rocket science but it takes time to be come good at it.

We have just taken on an "experienced" window cleaner who has been cleaning windows with the waterfed pole system for his previous company for four years. When we showed him how to check the TDS of the outcoming water he thought we were having a laugh as he had NEVER checked water in four years and he took the van home and NEVER changed any filters during this time. He is a very hard worker, has a reasonably good technique, but it seems that his company did not understand the "technique" at all as who knows what TDS they were cleaning with?

For me, the waterfed pole is just another tool used for cleaning windows, but its a big help to the operator if he understands how to use it properly and be able to look at and clean glass properly.

All have a good day now

[Roy Cauldery]

when we started, I looked at all options for the business and by c****t  the set up costs were huge for wfp, but i took a calculated risk that this was the way forward for our customers.So far so good,and we have trained our staff to change filters,take tds readings and have pride in their work because its just a superior product to trad but its also down to some good old fashioned hard work getting your round built up and customers converted but once you overcome that hurdle with some customer lessons on what to expect-they just love it!!


Roy

[Ronnie Bryce]

It's too bloody good, the glass stay's clean for ever. I like a bit of muck to make me look good, hardly ever any there though. That is after six week's mostly.

[H S and Son]

Thats what I find Ronnie, Im now telling new customers its a 6-8 week frequency, and with that of course the rate is higher 

[Roy Cauldery]

Thats what I find Ronnie, Im now telling new customers its a 6-8 week frequency, and with that of course the rate is higher 

Well said Matt-they know it makes sense!!

[Window Washers]

It's too bloody good, the glass stay's clean for ever. I like a bit of muck to make me look good, hardly ever any there though. That is after six week's mostly.

SHHHHhhhhh  Don't tell everyone, I will never be able to buy cheap new stuff if that catches on.  :

[Steve_c]

Nail on the head!!! 

Surprisingly for me coming back into this industry in 2010 there has been a flood of "new" window cleaners using the waterfed pole technique of cleaning windows.

We approached many new companies when we started who had infact lost confidence in their window cleaners abilities who used the waterfed pole technique, although as it turned out they were using them incorrectly.

We encouraged customers to try us, and we proved to them that water fed poles are the only way to go, and so far they have all been delighted with the results we have provided them.

Being from a window cleaning background - I still insist that all my window cleaners can use traditional techniques like squeegeees and scrims etc

I have taken great notice and I realise that many "Window Cleaners" who use the waterfed pole are infact not window cleaners at all, they are people who think they have bought a magic wand! and think they will be able to clean windows correctly with it. Well sorry it really doesn't work like that. Window cleaning is not rocket science but it takes time to be come good at it.

We have just taken on an "experienced" window cleaner who has been cleaning windows with the waterfed pole system for his previous company for four years. When we showed him how to check the TDS of the outcoming water he thought we were having a laugh as he had NEVER checked water in four years and he took the van home and NEVER changed any filters during this time. He is a very hard worker, has a reasonably good technique, but it seems that his company did not understand the "technique" at all as who knows what TDS they were cleaning with?

For me, the waterfed pole is just another tool used for cleaning windows, but its a big help to the operator if he understands how to use it properly and be able to look at and clean glass properly.

All have a good day now

You sure? Never Checked TDS? Come on Darren you sure your not exaggerating? I find that very hard to believe.

[simbo]

its true though, i have the odd hse that if nobody in i do kitchen and lounge window trad so they get filthy after couple of weeks otherwise i know they will be telling me not to bother as they are still clean. you know the sort i mean, we all have them
.

[Nathanael Jones]

hi ya  i had a brodex demo on my own house, i felt like a bull with a lance  i was not inpressed, they tried to convince me over a 6mth period that there system was the way to go, but no way, 25% of my custermers came to me because they were not happy with WFP system..........pete

Thats your problem right there,.. you need to get a demo from a company that makes decent gear and knows how to use it - then you'll be convinced! 

[petemg]

hi ya here we go, whats the best WFP system, is there one ........pete