[petemg]

hi ya if WFP is that good , why are there so many used or second hand units on the market, nearly all the adds i have seen, are as new condition, and a whole list of problems or excuses for them not to have been used, if some one is upgrading there system so be it, but there has got to be some thing not right with so many outfitts for sale.........pete

[Window Washers]

wfp doesnt work

[GDwindowcleaning]

Its just like asking why nearly new ferraris come ontobthe market, it doesnt suit everyone and some people are happy to run up ladders...

I for one would never clean windows any other way...

[supernova77]

hi ya Smiley if WFP is that good , why are there so many used or second hand units on the market, nearly all the adds i have seen, are as new condition, and a whole list of problems or excuses for them not to have been used, if some one is upgrading there system so be it, but there has got to be some thing not right with so many outfitts for sale.........pete

Yeah, I've been using it 6 years... Its rubbish, doesn't work at all, complete waste of money!

Have you ever tried it?  :

[petemg]

hi ya  i had a brodex demo on my own house, i felt like a bull with a lance  i was not inpressed, they tried to convince me over a 6mth period that there system was the way to go, but no way, 25% of my custermers came to me because they were not happy with WFP system..........pete

[supernova77]

hi ya  Smiley i had a brodex demo on my own house, i felt like a bull with a lance  Grin i was not inpressed, they tried to convince me over a 6mth period that there system was the way to go, but no way, 25% of my custermers came to me because they were not happy with WFP system..........pete

I think I might go back to trad now...

[Window Washers]

hi ya  i had a brodex demo on my own house, i felt like a bull with a lance  i was not inpressed, they tried to convince me over a 6mth period that there system was the way to go, but no way, 25% of my custermers came to me because they were not happy with WFP system..........pete

my guess is 25% of your customers came to you because the people trying to clean with wfp did not have a clue how to do it, they had no training, which in turn annoyed people and rightly so.
Trad cleaning still has it's place but no chance it is anywhere near as good as water fed pole, just the safety alone is reason enough to convert from ladders imo

[G Griffin]

hi ya  i had a brodex demo on my own house, i felt like a bull with a lance  i was not inpressed, they tried to convince me over a 6mth period that there system was the way to go, but no way, 25% of my custermers came to me because they were not happy with WFP system..........pete

A demo on your own house is hardly enough to convince you anyway, is it?

[petemg]

hi ya  it dont matter wether it was my house or some one elses a demo is a demo all day long, sorry its not for me........pete

[barry mallett]

im very happy for ya

[richardlingard]

pure water drys clear FACT therefore in therory it is perfect, however not all window cleaners are born equal, therefore the results will vary, just as in trad.

[Ian Rochester]

I think the reason why there as so many for sale on ebay is due to good marketing by Brodex/Ionics/Freedom etc.

Lots of people who have been made redundant and have a pocket full of money looking for a job are sold the hype of earnings thousands by cleaning windows using wfp.

They buy into it, spend a big wad of their redundancy and then realise that 20 years sat on their arse in a office is not good preparation for the realities of window cleaning, grafting all day in all weathers!  

So they jump ship and sell up their "nearly new" WFP window cleaning systems.

It's not that the systems don't work, it's the operator that doesn't work......in my opinion  

[Halfadaylee]

I think the reason why there as so many for sale on ebay is due to good marketing by Brodex/Ionics/Freedom etc.

Lots of people who have been made redundant and have a pocket full of money looking for a job are sold the hype of earnings thousands by cleaning windows using wfp.

They buy into it, spend a big wad of their redundancy and then realise that 20 years sat on their arse in a office is not good preparation for the realities of window cleaning, grafting all day in all weathers!  

So they jump ship and sell up their "nearly new" WFP window cleaning systems.

It's not that the systems don't work, it's the operator that doesn't work......in my opinion  

No you've lost me there Ian.

[Londoner]

I think the reason why there as so many for sale on ebay is due to good marketing by Brodex/Ionics/Freedom etc.

Lots of people who have been made redundant and have a pocket full of money looking for a job are sold the hype of earnings thousands by cleaning windows using wfp.

They buy into it, spend a big wad of their redundancy and then realise that 20 years sat on their arse in a office is not good preparation for the realities of window cleaning, grafting all day in all weathers!  

So they jump ship and sell up their "nearly new" WFP window cleaning systems.

It's not that the systems don't work, it's the operator that doesn't work......in my opinion  

Ian is right, its all about the people. Can't hack it. They would last even less time on ladders. However, please carry on knocking WFP, the more people you can put off it the better. Too many converting round here, thats the last thing I want to see.
The more dippys on ladders the better for me, they can't to the one above the conservatory, they cant do the one above the garage, they don't do the frames, they don't do the front door.

I always have to laugh when I hear people on here saying they pick up loads of work from WFP window cleaners. Really? because my experience is you lose customers to WFP .

[H S and Son]

People give up. It's not as easy as some would make out to build a sustainable round. If you give up a half built trad round you're not likely to flog your ladder and bucket on eBay. Can't compare the two.

[Frankybadboy]

People give up. It's not as easy as some would make out to build a sustainable round. If you give up a half built trad round you're not likely to flog your ladder and bucket on eBay. Can't compare the two.

you selling your ladders now then matt

[H S and Son]

After reading this thread I'm going back to them. Check out eBay for another system. Looking forward to halving my income 

[Helen]

pure water drys clear FACT therefore in therory it is perfect, however not all window cleaners are born equal, therefore the results will vary, just as in trad.

How true

[Helen]

After reading this thread I'm going back to them. Check out eBay for another system. Looking forward to halving my income 

You were never happy with all that spare money anyway, why make more? advertise the system for free

[Frankybadboy]

After reading this thread I'm going back to them. Check out eBay for another system. Looking forward to halving my income 

You were never happy with all that spare money anyway, why make more? advertise the system for free

make that 2 systems now on ebay