[Window Washers]

sean 20% of work you have cleaned. if you dont work thats 20% of £0  if you where just looking to start up and got offered £35000 min turnover in first year for £10000 with all tools and everythink you need plus all the help you need would you look in to it?

I would snap there arm off

[GDwindowcleaning]

The turnover would need be guaranteed not each job....

Look into the franchise market, you can pay mega money

[taylored]

i would of too washer lee i have been working on it for a long time, its the paper work thats the hard part  

[Lee Burbidge]

i would of too washer lee i have been working on it for a long time, its the paper work thats the hard part  

Yo mean you have a franchise?

[GDwindowcleaning]

I know the guy that runs the local Dublcheck franchise, you buy turnover from the company so if you want to earn more with no sales you just bung them some money and the sales machine kicks in. They been established years so something similar could easily be done with window cleaning....

[taylored]

no lee am looking to start selling them. set your own income style, all work and tools full set up pack use your own van.

[Lee Burbidge]

no lee am looking to start selling them. set your own income style, all work and tools full set up pack use your own van.

Very interesting. How much research have you done thus far?

[taylored]

alot lee got the plan all done and costs, its the agreement thats the hard bit for me. yes before someone says it see a solicitor but they cant do your agreement, if your still working out how you will do it its wording the little bits they can do so it stands up in court if it all go's t!ts up.

[bobplum]

Richard speech of isparkle,who comes on here as one put out a shout for him

bob

[Window Washers]

alot lee got the plan all done and costs, its the agreement thats the hard bit for me. yes before someone says it see a solicitor but they cant do your agreement, if your still working out how you will do it its wording the little bits they can do so it stands up in court if it all go's t!ts up.

the costs to do this correctly are about 100k, I have had meetings with national companies in respect of this very thing 

[davids3511]

My 1st franchisee starts 1st feb. He is in a job at the moment where he takes home 350 for a 60 hour week. For everyone who says they can't see the point of buying a franchise, this guy is the example. He would never have the time or resources to canvass up a full round which he would need as he has bills to pay. By going with me he will have 2k monthly work from day 1, increasing to 2.5k within 6 months and 3k within 1 year.

Students go to uni and build up 40k debt to earn less that this.

[Sean Dyer]

sean 20% of work you have cleaned. if you dont work thats 20% of £0  if you where just looking to start up and got offered £35000 min turnover in first year for £10000 with all tools and everythink you need plus all the help you need would you look in to it?

I dont think a franchise company is gonna be happy with you doing £0

usually theres a minimum fee  PLus for 20k franchise fee you could buy an awesome round

I still think its bonkers

In this industry there really is no point

Some are arguing you are buying a Proven system ?? Get customer , clean customer collect money from customer , repeat

Its hardly mcdonalds, kfc , or any of the other huge franchises where there are hundreds of systems etc are needed , and branding is huge, and hundreds of millions of pounds of investment and proof of huge profits.

What national domestic window cleaning brands are household names??
Fish in usa is , that i can understand

but in the uk where window cleaning work is so easy to do and find , its money thrown away .. for so much less and some hard work you can earn the same with no one on your back , the whole point of this job is the freedom and flexibility  , not a franchisor saying why havent you hit 60 k a year

[Sean Dyer]

Also if your so confident in your system why are you giving them all the work

No other franchise hands over the custys to start , thats selling a round and then renting it back

A bloody good money spinner but a good deal for punter ?

I dont think so

[GDwindowcleaning]

But Sean that is just your opinion, franchises are not just the big boys ie mcdonalds etc there are franchises in all walks of life and not everyone agrees with them but they are the right way to go for some people.

You say you could buy a round but that has its pitfalls, to buy 4k a month will cost 12k at the very least, often more and there are no guarantees that come with buying work(i have heard some horror stories) with a franchise you are buying security, you also dont have to learn from your own mistakes.

I am not saying I would ever buy a franchise but for some people it is 100% the right thing to do....

[taylored]

david did you do your own agreement? how long did it take you to put all the bits together? well done for getting this far hope it all go well for you.

[Sean Dyer]

Hey i know there are people who do it and it works.

I never wrote franchises off there is a small place for them for a few people , im just putting in my opinion as you said , so that people dont read and think oh brilliant for most of my life savings and 20% of all future income i can have a window cleaning round

When most of us on here know how simple it can be to set up and do

Ive even read up on setting up a franchise myself to see what it would entail , i just dont think its a good deal , and if you have to build there round for them  i think its even more pointless

But good luck to anyone who tries it , ive read all ian lancasters posts in the past and i know he makes a good living for himself and his workers and i have spoken to a few more on here who have tried to do the same and wish them all the best

But i think its a bit much for domestic window cleaning, the branding isnt there, and the job is to simple to need someone elses "guide" , its all on here and google in some form or another, just because you have paid for your franchise it doesnt make you outshine all the window cleaners in your area  , you are as good as you want to be , franchisee or not

[taylored]

its not just buying a round, its getting it all done for you at a price you see before you start. all the work priced up and booked in for you at a speed you set. as for not working everyone gets sick and things happen in life when you need time off.

[taylored]

sean yes window cleaner know how to do it all, but if you were just thinking of setting and had to do it all again would you not do alot of things the way you know now or would you make the same mistakes we all made,underpriceing,starting trad,having to work one day and back out to get more the next. i would of loved to just been out cleaning from day 1 till i had to say thats all the work i can do now, no more thanks.

[GDwindowcleaning]

I have seen posts from people on here who have been going for years and they still have questions, i have seen posts from new guys and the posts mocking them from people who are set up already.

There is place for franchises in this industry....

[mikecam]

alot lee got the plan all done and costs, its the agreement thats the hard bit for me. yes before someone says it see a solicitor but they cant do your agreement, if your still working out how you will do it its wording the little bits they can do so it stands up in court if it all go's t!ts up.

the costs to do this correctly are about 100k, I have had meetings with national companies in respect of this very thing 

I'm puzzled by your reply here, two reasons. Are you really telling him the costs for a legal agreement are about 100k ?  And, i'm guessing you are as you said it !!! What National Companies did you have meetings with in respect of drawing up a 'relativley' simple franchisee agreement, and did they laugh when you spoke?