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Lee Burbidge

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Big FISH big pond.......
« on: January 18, 2012, 05:24:56 pm »
Has any one considered buying a window cleaning franchise?

What benefits does a franchise really offer?

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 05:30:21 pm »
If its the right one then guaranteed work plus all the support you need but some I have seen offer nothing more than a system and use of the name....

Pope vader

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 05:42:17 pm »
the only way it would work is if it come with x amount of commercial work per month,  other wise its just  a name, that most people havent heard of

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 05:44:44 pm »
Would it not work if came with guaranteed domestic work? Although we are not a franchises target market to be fair....

taylored

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 06:17:41 pm »
yes i would of had an ian lacaster type one when i started, with work and all the help to start bringing in money from day 1 and i would sill be happy to pay 20% on going fee. i have been looking in to setting up this type of one. works for both sides, if you could get working from day 1 and set your own target income for a price would you do all the hard work again?

Sean Dyer

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 06:22:38 pm »
Buy a round and canvass and keep 20% ??

one days work a week for someone else , before tax and expenses

madness

Window Washers

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 06:24:55 pm »
Buy a round and canvass and keep 20% ??

one days work a week for someone else , before tax and expenses

madness
depends on how much that work is priced at Sean, it could be twice the price you work for , that would make you mad for doing low priced work 5 days a week. Hope you see the point I am making,
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

taylored

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 06:34:53 pm »
no canvassing just doing the work as it came in not even priceing up or getting calls, just cleaning. and getting your full set up fee back in first year  ;)

rg1

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 06:35:30 pm »
Would it not work if came with guaranteed domestic work? Although we are not a franchises target market to be fair....

There is no such thing as 'Guaranteed domestic work' They could all cancel the following month and you would be left with nothing!
The pen is mightier than the sword (and a lot easier to write with!)

taylored

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 06:37:48 pm »
people only all cancel if you can not clean windows ;D

Window Washers

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 06:40:35 pm »
people only all cancel if you can not clean windows ;D
not always i have seen some shocking window cleaners and they have regular work
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 06:41:18 pm »
And it could be guaranteed if done right, they would only have to guarantee turnover not the actual job, so if one drops off then its replaced. Thats guaranteed...

Sean Dyer

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 06:54:48 pm »
Buy a round and canvass and keep 20% ??

one days work a week for someone else , before tax and expenses

madness
depends on how much that work is priced at Sean, it could be twice the price you work for , that would make you mad for doing low priced work 5 days a week. Hope you see the point I am making,

If i did the work 20 % cheaper than him im still even and no stress making a franchise fee when im ill, snowed in , can be assed

Plus most guys learn how to price

And franchises 99%of the time you build the business yourself

Why have you got to pay someone to tell you to price higher
, any post on here, business book or ounce of common sense tells you "price higher" i dont need to give someone 20% of my wage for that

Ps i understand why people set it up etc im just seeing it from my view , i have nothing against franshises/ees

But i think its a bit over complicating things for domestic window cleaning, but each to there own

:)

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 06:55:55 pm »
the only way it would work is if it come with x amount of commercial work per month,  other wise its just  a name, that most people havent heard of

Yeah the guys in the US where I have opened up a simular topic but based on their biggest franchise company FiSH, said the same. If it came with a customer base it might be a viable option. Still I think they have to pay 200 dollars per month for the franchise back office.

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 07:00:16 pm »
Buy a round and canvass and keep 20% ??

one days work a week for someone else , before tax and expenses

madness

I agree. But those that buy a franchise buy an established brand and proven business model. Im not too sure if they guarantee a percentage of the money, like factoring wether all the money has been collected or not. That would make a differnce I guess, but still you are having to pay for it.


Lee Burbidge

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 07:01:21 pm »
no canvassing just doing the work as it came in not even priceing up or getting calls, just cleaning. and getting your full set up fee back in first year  ;)

Have you done a franchise?

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 07:04:29 pm »
The trouble with discussing this with established window cleaners is they already know so a franchise is not aimed at them. Its aimed at people new to the industry. Alot of people would pay 20k for a franchise that earned them 40k a year....

rg1

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 07:05:00 pm »
people only all cancel if you can not clean windows ;D

Or if they have been pressured into signing up for window cleaning
The pen is mightier than the sword (and a lot easier to write with!)

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 07:06:04 pm »
The trouble with discussing this with established window cleaners is they already know so a franchise is not aimed at them. Its aimed at people new to the industry. Alot of people would pay 20k for a franchise that earned them 40k a year....

That is a good point.

taylored

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Re: Big FISH big pond.......
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 07:07:50 pm »
sean 20% of work you have cleaned. if you dont work thats 20% of £0 ;)  if you where just looking to start up and got offered £35000 min turnover in first year for £10000 with all tools and everythink you need plus all the help you need would you look in to it?