[Londoner]

What about staff being on the straight and narrow because they are nice people and have respect for their employer

There are more genuine people out there than you think

Yes but I am  far too cynical to ever admit that you may be right. Speaking as someone who fiddled and stole from every employer I ever worked for and everybody else I know just about has done the same. I am not going to be that quick to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Are you saying you're a thief, Vince? 

Yes basically, isn't everyone?

[EandM]

What about staff being on the straight and narrow because they are nice people and have respect for their employer

There are more genuine people out there than you think

Yes but I am  far too cynical to ever admit that you may be right. Speaking as someone who fiddled and stole from every employer I ever worked for and everybody else I know just about has done the same. I am not going to be that quick to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Are you saying you're a thief, Vince? 

Yes basically, isn't everyone?

Not everyone. Not yet anyway...

[GDwindowcleaning]

Hope you never need to do business on here with anyone vince.....

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

Just because it was drawn up by a lawyer it does not make it legal, would be nearly impossible to bring to court if you left and then worked with that customer. It also woundnt guarantee that you would keep the customer as they have a choice who they buy from unless tied in to a watertight contract. There is only one winner in situations like that and its the lawyer....

I am sure even with a contract that if a window cleaning customer wanted to change companies that there is not alot you can do....

Its just business and it happens in every walk of life...

The purpose of it with my old employer was that it made the employee think before trying to pinch a customer and it did deter most of them because there was always a risk that the employer would carry through the threat!
Do agree with you about the lawyer winning but I don't think it hurts to have those sort of clauses in

[G Griffin]

What about staff being on the straight and narrow because they are nice people and have respect for their employer

There are more genuine people out there than you think

Yes but I am  far too cynical to ever admit that you may be right. Speaking as someone who fiddled and stole from every employer I ever worked for and everybody else I know just about has done the same. I am not going to be that quick to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Are you saying you're a thief, Vince? 

Yes basically, isn't everyone?

I don't think I am.

[Richard iSparkle]

had breakfast at mi mates and wen i looked out the window seen one of my vans parked up no ladders on and could not see any1 so i went for awalk in the erea and there he was new lad traddin away on a block of terriced houses 8 in a row so i went back mi mates and waited to he was putttin ladders on van then i pounced on him he was shocked to see me i sed wats goin on he sed they were 1offs i sed wat 8 in a row he had no replie so i took the keys off him he has no lic to drive  told him 2 cum and see me later in his pockets was £78 in cash so looks like he has done afew jobs today i will be keepin the cash for usein my gear and van also i will be addin the work 2my buisness he is now down the rd  lost agood job £250 aweek plus bonuses silly boy he rang me told him not bother cumin seein me .

totally agree with what you did.  whether it's legal is another thing, but i would do the same given the circumstances. 

[Danny Guest]

Bottom line is its stealing.
Stealing is the worst and you have made a monumental mistake taking him back.

What precedent are you giving to this lad or your other employees or whoever else is watching.
Youve basically told them you will take poop and that weakness will be exploited at some point

Danny

[Londoner]

What about staff being on the straight and narrow because they are nice people and have respect for their employer

There are more genuine people out there than you think

Yes but I am  far too cynical to ever admit that you may be right. Speaking as someone who fiddled and stole from every employer I ever worked for and everybody else I know just about has done the same. I am not going to be that quick to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Are you saying you're a thief, Vince? 

Yes basically, isn't everyone?

I don't think I am.

Have you never taken a pen home from work or found a coin in the street?

[G Griffin]

What about staff being on the straight and narrow because they are nice people and have respect for their employer

There are more genuine people out there than you think

Yes but I am  far too cynical to ever admit that you may be right. Speaking as someone who fiddled and stole from every employer I ever worked for and everybody else I know just about has done the same. I am not going to be that quick to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Are you saying you're a thief, Vince? 

Yes basically, isn't everyone?

I don't think I am.

Have you never taken a pen home from work or found a coin in the street?

Not done the pen; that I can remember, anyway.
I've found coins and notes- yes- and put them in my pocket. But I didn't know who they belonged to, if that makes me a thief then, fair enough  . If I saw someone drop some money I would tell them.
I always think- that I don't think I should have, something that isn't mine (or rightfully mine).

[AuRavelling79]

Vince you said that you spoke as someone who fiddled and stole from every employer.

That is not just refreshingly honest - (unless you are saying you would no longer do those things) it is brazen and not something I or believe many would do. Maybe you phrased it wrongly?

No I would not knowingly take a pen or an item of stationery from any employer for personal use. Or when I worked in a shop dream of taking cash out of the till. It is no different to me.

As for finding a coin in the street then I do not view that as stealing because I do not feel it's owner would be looking for it. A note I view differently. (probably not a fiver - I'm inconsistent I know)

Once my teenage daughter found a £20 note in a park. I was with my daughter and we took it to the police station. Three months later no one had claimed it (obviously)and she got it to keep.

Before you ask me at which cathedral I worship I believe I have a reasonable view which comes under the heading of "do unto others as you would wish to be done to you etc."

Had I found a 20 euro note abroad or a tenner in Snowdonia I wouldn't take too much time looking for a copper as I think the effort I would expend goes beyond what is sensible to do.

Conversely had I dropped said notes I wouldn't be knocking at the copshop hoping it would be handed in.

A wallet or a mobile would deffo get handed in - contents and all.

[Londoner]

Well its the truth, you can make of it what you like. My expenses were always OTT and so was my milage.( So was everybody else's as far as I could tell) it was a way of life.

[bobby p]

vince ,have u any stuff from way back ,the Reme days?  i still have my combat jacket from 1984 but not my beret  or SLR

[Londoner]

You have got me thinking now, I don't think I have. I had a combat jacket for years but it got too tight and it ended up in the garage. Wish I could still buy the socks, I got some off ebay but they are not the same.