[Billy Russell]

i thought john paul did fragrances!!!!   

[Neil Williams]

i thought john paul did fragrances!!!!   

No you muppet, he was a member of Led Zeppelin who left the music industry to apparently wind up the members of a well known forum.

[Paul Heath]

"i thought john paul did fragrances!!!!"
You will need something stronger than that to cover up all those onions..

[Bedfordshire Oven Cleaning]

On a serious note, I have been un-decided whether or not to post this or not over the last couple of days since the rule was mentioned.
When I started on here I was an employee with aspirations of working for myself. This was not a nice company, a company who went to incredible lengths to make me nervous at work or otherwise. They sent staff round to my house when I was off, they still send people to find me even now to see what I am doing and where I am, they still ring my landline in the middle of the night. I was spotted working at 5am in the middle of a town carrying my sebo, I bought this a month after I left as I got on so well with one when I worked for them, I had an email that week asking for me to return their sebo as I had stolen it, I had to send them a reciept to prove I had bought it. I left 3 months ago.
This was the tip of the iceberg, the list is unbelieveable and this was a national company.
Anyway to gain advice and knowledge I joined here under a fake name, not much good putting my real name, it would have been found.
I now work for myself, and although it felt good yesterday changing my screen name, there are always 2 sides to a story. Not always clean cut.
Dont want to ruffle any feathers but thats just my experience.

[Carpet Dawg]

Yeah i wanna pop at you!!!!!! you look like a poor mans magnum pi!!!!!!! What you going to do about it??? 
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ha ha ha ha ha 

[Simon Gerrard]

When me and Glynn took over Truckmounters the first thing we did was make everyone display their real name and a passport size photo of themselves because we believed that professional people don't conduct conversations with each other with a paper bag over their head. I think we were the first forum to do it and initially it did cost us some members who weren't prepared to do it. The problem CIU has got is it is a business that relies on advertising revenues to make money. The advertisers want exposure to as many people as possible and so the forum owners can't adopt any policy that may cost them members and so will never persue any change that the members actually want because we aren't important in a financial sense.

Simon

[Mike Halliday]

advertiser want  to get rid of the anonymous members more than the admin do,  what stops them advertising or  re-advertising is  anonymous members who can slag of their products without fear of any consequences.

its in the advertisers interest for ciu to  get members to be identifiable.

[Simon Gerrard]

Mike,
If that is the case why don't they address the issue?

Simon

[Mike Halliday]

I think thats what they are in the process of doing....  but they are hoping that members will voluntarily change their details.

[derek west]

I think that what they are in the process of doing....  but they are hoping that members will voluntarily change their details.

 

a bit like me hoping i'll win the lottery tonight.




















































without a ticket

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

There is definitely a desire to get rid of the silly names and my advise would be to change to something identifiable, either your own name or company with your own name in your signature.

No doubt there will be a few who will have to be dragged into this 'brave new world' but I think most will see it as a good move.

Cheers

Doug

[Simon Gerrard]

Then rest of us could ignore the people with false / silly names until they come out from having a paper bag over their heads and show their face!

Simon

[Steve Rothwell]

You can't ignore me Simon ...................................







You know me

 

[derek west]

who said that??

[Adam P]

Steve Barnett: i haven't got a clue what you're getting at. i clearly said it wasn't an issue for me (obviously else how else would you have identified me as a member of cleantalk) but it could easily be a concern for some, as has been proven by a poster in this thead

you say it's open but in fact it's not., it's closed. you first have to sign up to even read the forum, but also you now HAVE to have your real name. this place is the definition of a closed forum. an open one doesn't mind if you have a different name.

mike: what you've said about being accountable makes sense, but imo it's the wrong way of seeing it. imo people should be allowed to freely give opinions on companies without worrying about them knowing for sure who said it. i want to be able to say the service i got from xxx was less then good, or that the company i've worked for in the past has been terrible with payments etc, but if they knew it was me then i may lose the opportunity for future work

members on here obviously have an issue with people posting hiding behind a username and disappearing. the simple solution which is what i do in every day life is ignore it until there is something to back it up. you still have this issue. i could make another account under the name Eddie Edward from Simpleclean and then slag of a company and run. now it'll be listened to because i've used a recognisable name?

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

mike: what you've said about being accountable makes sense, but imo it's the wrong way of seeing it. imo people should be allowed to freely give opinions on companies without worrying about them knowing for sure who said it. i want to be able to say the service i got from xxx was less then good, or that the company i've worked for in the past has been terrible with payments etc, but if they knew it was me then i may lose the opportunity for future work

I don't get this part of your post Adam.

As Mike said, I would respect someone posting under their real name and telling me that they received bad service from XYZ supplier, far more than a false name slagging off XYZ because he has an axe to grind.

Why would you worry about a bad payer seeing something you have written about them, who would want to carry out future work for a bad payer ?

In my experience, and with a few notable exceptions, most of the false names that appear on this forum are out to cause trouble without fear of identification - we have quite a few in the last 6 months, including the guy who used every opportunity to slag off Derek and TACCA.

[Simon Gerrard]

You can't ignore me Simon ...................................







You know me
Did someone say something?
 

[Mike Halliday]

  be able to say the service i got from xxx was less then good, or that the company i've worked for in the past has been terrible with payments etc, but if they knew it was me then i may lose the opportunity for future work

so you want to slag them off anonymously on the Internet but still take money from them......, wouldn't a better solution be  to grow some balls and rather than hide behind an alias and harm their business (which is what you are doing) confront them about their terrible payment system.

anonymity is the hiding place of cowards and cyber- bullies we can all come up with a reason to not be named but I've yet to hear one that holds water

[Simon Gerrard]

I agree with Steve. That's a pretty flimsy excuse for being a faceless wonder.

I notice when new members join some of the established members are reluctant to converse with them until they have filled in their profile. Could we simply extend that to not conversing with people with false names / identities and thereby force people to be respectful enough of his fellow members to reveal his name and speak face-to-face as a gentlemen should?

Simon

[Steve Rothwell]

Hmmmmmmmmm

methinks a rethink