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Cedaronics

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FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« on: November 10, 2011, 12:31:05 pm »
Hi Alex

I had this end clamp snap on the SLX today, and though that you ought be be made aware of it, in case it's happened in other cases.  It's as if the clamp has a weakness in it.  Do you think it has something to do with the fact that I am using one of the quick-change connectors in the end?  The brush is the fairly stiff one you sell.

Many thanks.

Tim


Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 12:57:32 pm »
Looks like user error to me.

As you have pulled the quick release out you haven't kept it straight.

If you really think it is a production fault you should have contacted the supplier first rather than post.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 01:04:57 pm »
Give the Office a call and they can help sort this out for you.

The only way that this clamp could snap in half like this is if the aluminium fitting had not been fully inserted during use. If it used with the alloy adapter fully in then the carbon tube takes most of the strain instead of the nylon clamp. Or it could be that it was pulled sideways whilst removing the fitting at some point.

In any case give us a call and we can send a replacement clamp out to you for free, no problem.

Cedaronics

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 02:15:38 pm »
Thanks Alex

Maybe it was the alloy insert bit was not far enough in - quite a bit was showing.

I don't mind paying for a new one, that's ok, thanks.  And I posted here as I couldn't find your email althgouht I know it ahs been put in  a few posts.

Cheers Alex for the response.

Tim

Edit: The more I think about it and look at the photos, this has probably happened indeed because the ally insert was not far enough into the carbon tube.

Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 03:10:49 pm »
I did this regular with my facelift pole as there was no positive stop. I would extend too much and snap!

Great service from Gardiners.

Cedaronics

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 03:15:21 pm »
I don't think I over-extended, I just think maybe the pressure was just that incy wincy bit too much - it was just a first clean on a conny roof, so maybe it just couldn't take it?  Anyway, I didn't know that the ally insert could go any further into the pole tube.  I reckon that's what did it.

I'm actually thinking of ditching the interchangeable one now, and just having the same brush on both SLX's.  Does anyone know what you have to do to fit a brush permanently on the end of the tube?  IS there another insert that goes inside the pole?  I suppose there must be.

Steve_c

Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 03:23:37 pm »
Thanks Alex

Maybe it was the alloy insert bit was not far enough in - quite a bit was showing.

I don't mind paying for a new one, that's ok, thanks.  And I posted here as I couldn't find your email althgouht I know it ahs been put in  a few posts.

Cheers Alex for the response.

Tim

Edit: The more I think about it and look at the photos, this has probably happened indeed because the ally insert was not far enough into the carbon tube.
That is great customer service

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 04:54:31 pm »
I saw the pics before i read Alex reply,and imediately thought that the alu fitting had not been pushed in deep enough, causing strain on the plastic clamp.
They can be a tad stiff, getting them in first time,but they will go fully in, if you twist and turn with a bit of force
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Alex Gardiner

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 05:01:58 pm »
I don't think I over-extended, I just think maybe the pressure was just that incy wincy bit too much - it was just a first clean on a conny roof, so maybe it just couldn't take it?  Anyway, I didn't know that the ally insert could go any further into the pole tube.  I reckon that's what did it.

I'm actually thinking of ditching the interchangeable one now, and just having the same brush on both SLX's.  Does anyone know what you have to do to fit a brush permanently on the end of the tube?  IS there another insert that goes inside the pole?  I suppose there must be.

There are two options for use on the top of the SL-X quick release poles. You can use the Resi-Necks (Type1) which are an all-in-one version of what you currently have and have a 12cm plastic shaft that slides inside the clamp and top section. Alternatively you can fit a Carbon-Fibre gooseneck which also slides down inside the top section and clamps in position.

Cedaronics

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 05:07:42 pm »
I think I'll do the former, Alex, and fit this 'Resi-necks' thing, (never heard of that before) and buy another soft brush and keep the two SLXs with the same brush - I tried the stiffer brush all day today and it didn't like leaded glass - kept catching and was a bit too aggressive really.  It's been fine for the occasional clean on large sashes.

It's only by experimenting that we find out these things.  Thanks for the info on the 'resi-necks' thing, Alex.

Tim

Alex Gardiner

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 05:15:59 pm »
Resi-Neck is (in Gardiner-speak)  short for 'residential gooseneck' and is a plastic adjustable neck similar to what you have currently but with an all-in-one shaft for quick release poles.

Cedaronics

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 05:18:49 pm »
oops, in that case I think it's not the Resi neck I need, but the plastic shaft.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 05:24:23 pm »
oops, in that case I think it's not the Resi neck I need, but the plastic shaft.

Why not email me direct on alex@agardiner.co.uk and I can help you 'off-forum' and give you product and image links to help you.

Cedaronics

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 05:28:01 pm »
Sure, ok, Alex, it's got a bit more complicated that I thought.

Email on it's way.

Cedaronics

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 06:11:05 pm »
For everyone's information, Alex has been as good as his reputation would suggest, and offered a free number one clamp and resi-neck.  Considering that the problem seems well to have occurred because the alloy insert was not as far into the pole tube as it could have been, this is pretty good service, is it not?

For anyone who's interested, I've decided to dump the quick release version and buy another soft brush, as the stiff one I found somewhat agressive on sashes and postage stamps.  My error was in buying one SLX with a fixed head and one with the quick release mechanism.  That was not such a bright thing to do.  With this outcome, I can rest assured that the end of the pole is stronger and it does away with the pole hose being crushed by the thread on the angle adapter.

Hope this helps, and thanks to Alex and Sam for their help.

Tim

ps, the stiff brush will be eBayed in due course for anyone who needs one.

Nameless Drudge

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 12:14:20 am »
For everyone's information, Alex has been as good as his reputation would suggest, and offered a free number one clamp and resi-neck.  Considering that the problem seems well to have occurred because the alloy insert was not as far into the pole tube as it could have been, this is pretty good service, is it not?

For anyone who's interested, I've decided to dump the quick release version and buy another soft brush, as the stiff one I found somewhat agressive on sashes and postage stamps.  My error was in buying one SLX with a fixed head and one with the quick release mechanism.  That was not such a bright thing to do.  With this outcome, I can rest assured that the end of the pole is stronger and it does away with the pole hose being crushed by the thread on the angle adapter.

Hope this helps, and thanks to Alex and Sam for their help.

Tim

ps, the stiff brush will be eBayed in due course for anyone who needs one.

I`ve read this about 6 times now and am none the wiser. Hope this helps you say!
The picture speaks a thousand words,you attached the brush with quick release angle adaptor to the top bit of the clamp only and then wondered why it snapped in two with pressure applied.The clamp is only for gripping what is inserted into the pole and you never got that far .You mention it wasn`t as far into the pole as it could have been.Are you having a laugh?,it`s only looked at it.

If i had done this and posted up that picture, the thread title would be,

   Am i  gormless or what?

 

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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2011, 01:19:55 am »
all i can say is gardiners rock ok
alex n his team sure rise to our needs  ;D
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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 04:26:02 pm »
>Sean Brennan - "Am I gormless or what?"

 ;D ;D ;D

>Cedaronics

Don't worry about it - I've done some pretty gormless things while window cleaning - at the risk of boring the regulars on here, I'll tell the tale of the two ornamental planters or the stepping back thigh deep into a fishpond one day!"

 ;D
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Re: FAO Alex G. Snapped end clamp on SLX
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2011, 05:25:56 am »
Ha ha - that is pretty daft!  :)