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fogwash
« on: November 07, 2011, 09:21:36 pm »
Hi all fitted in fogwash saturday to the back door works well but one thing im not sure on is that it doesnt come out hot instant and it takes about 5 minutes to start comming thru hot is this right as Im thinking when its freezing out im sure the pipes will freez if it takes that long to hot up !!!!!!!!!

Pure Glass

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 09:33:57 pm »
Same with mine mate. Installed a couple of weeks back and used for the first time properly today on a first clean

Pilot kept going out, so some tweaking to do somehow. Bit irritated with it if I'm honest

Re: fogwash
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 09:37:37 pm »
hiya pure I think your pilot light is going out as your water on the shower is turned up to much you need to keep the water pressure abit lower which should sort your pilot light staying on !!!!

PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 09:39:45 pm »
the reason its not instantly hot is because it there is 100metres of hose to get through 1st.

Pure Glass

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 09:40:21 pm »
That's my problem-the water is on min

Going to ring Peter tomorrow

Hope all goes well with yours mate

Steve

Re: fogwash
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 09:56:03 pm »
thats strange if its on min yes peter should know ... your right about the water having to travel thru the hose but did a job this morning and we had done a qauter of it by the time the water started to get warm but gotta say when we did another job about 45 mins later the water was warm within about a minute , but the hosese were so nice and soft and easy to roll in , I hope you get your system sorted gotta be something silly I guess but being new to it im learning to good luck !!!!

Roy Harding

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 10:05:42 pm »
That's my problem-the water is on min

Going to ring Peter tomorrow

Hope all goes well with yours mate

Steve

Have you got it on winter setting?

Roy

Re: fogwash
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 10:12:11 pm »
hiya Roy what does it do the winter & sumer controls sorry to ask but its new to me  ::)

Pure Glass

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 10:15:57 pm »
Hi Roy

Yes, its on winter, gas at about a quarter and water on min

Is that a problem?

Steve

Roy Harding

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 10:29:13 pm »
The Summer setting only uses part of the burner, but the winter setting uses all and therefore burns hotter. 


Roy

Pure Glass

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 10:31:56 pm »
So what would you say is the reason for the burner not staying lit Roy?

No thread hijack intended rs!!


Roy Harding

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2011, 10:33:38 pm »
What I would do is turn water to min also the gas then when it lights turn gas up 1/4 of the way.

Also is the heater cutting out with the reset switch?

Roy

Pure Glass

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 10:35:43 pm »
Haven't tried the reset yet

I'll give it a pop tomorrow

Thanks Roy

Roy Harding

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 10:38:38 pm »
Haven't tried the reset yet

I'll give it a pop tomorrow

Thanks Roy

I found that I had to continually press the reset.  It normally takes about half a four bedroom house before its hot.

Roy

spongebob

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2011, 12:20:07 am »
So what would you say is the reason for the burner not staying lit Roy?

No thread hijack intended rs!!



The burner going out is more likely to be caused by no back pressure of water. most of these heaters rely on water travelling across a pressure membrane and adjusting the flow of gas to the burner accordingly. You could have a situation where the flow is too great and no back pressure is created in this gas valve causing it to shut down the gas valve. Also they have a small bypass which can be blocked causing the pilot to go out. With regard to your burner going out on full rate it will be the above in which case try slowing your water flow and/or restricting the flow at the brush with a tap etc to increase back pressure. the other cause could be it is actually overheating and tripping out on its stat. Measure the temp of the water if possible. If anyone has a diagram of the internals or a good picture of the fogwash internal setup it would help to diagnose further.
Andy

p.s. Check that your regulator on the bottle is operating okay. Only way is borrow another and try that to see if fault still occurs unless you know an lpg engineer who can check the burner pressure for you.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2011, 09:57:20 am »
Good informative post spongebob.

For everyone having problems with the Fogwash, there is no such thing as a pilotlight on these things. Like Roy said, if the heater cuts out, it's very likely it's the sensor on top of the machine that senses a build up of exhaust gases. If this gets to dangerous levels it shuts off the boiler. You need to press the little button on the top to get the heater to fire back up.

For one reel you can have the water regulator around the minimum, with higher flow or two poles, you need to turn that up a bit so it doesn't cut out on full flow. Best to lay out all of the hose, turn pump on, and see what's happening. If it cuts out almost immediately you need to fiddle around with the water regulator. If it cuts out after some time, it's most likely because the exhaust gases are not exiting properly.

Also, yes it does take some time to get it through the hose, I believe (need to do more testing) that the winter setting, even on low gas setting cuts down this time quite a lot. What's recommended is to either put the hosereel hose back in the tank to heat some of the water in the tank up. Like you said it can freeze in bad weather before the water heats up in the reel. I think what I will do is just leave the reel in the van before I start on the first job, with a male rectus fitting plugged in, and just letting the water come out for a bit first.

Re: fogwash
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2011, 12:06:12 pm »
thanks for all the feedback, Tim my mate said to get a spare hose with a connector and tap it into the out flow, the hose that goes to the reel dont let the water back to the reel put the pipe back into the tank so the water goes into the shower comes out the out hose of which i add my spare hose connected to it of which goes back in2 my tank until it starts getting warm then connect it back to the hose rell that way the reel shouldnt freez well thats our fiery will try it when really cold !!!!!!!

Small but perfectley formed

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Re: fogwash
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2011, 02:06:30 pm »
Does everyone use microbore hose with theres ? mine cuts out when i connect my hose reel to water out any ideas how to stop this ?When i use 12mm hose this does not happen
Spit and polish

Re: fogwash
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2011, 05:47:21 pm »
I use 8mm small micro

dave.e

Re: fogwash
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2011, 06:22:31 pm »
I use 8mm small micro





Hi mate 8mm is minibore  6mm is microbore