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bobby p

Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2011, 10:02:36 pm »
back street glaziers can soon knock up a new and fit it.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2011, 10:06:13 pm »
i think from now on im not gonna blade anything other than normal (float) glass,

if i see a mark in the corner that says anything other than the brand im gonna use thinners to remove paint and not touch it with a blade?!?

what do you lot recon?

seamus campbell

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2011, 10:20:18 pm »
Not that i have much experiene, but the last few ive done with paint on i just used warm water with plenty of Ungers sprayed on and used 000 wire wool and it came up a treat without scratches, have i just been lucky, and is toughened and tempered glass alway marked, and should you never use a blade on it.

windiewasher

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2011, 10:57:57 pm »
okay so i finally plucked up the courage and phoned the custy.

she was actually okay with it  :o :o :o

i took kev@cleanerbrights advice really in the end and said

"hi hello i was unable to remove the paint from your patio window because its to old and to long ingrained and ive also scratched the glass. i didnt want to say that its scratched due to my inexperince and i shouldnt have used blades on toughened/tempered glass  :-[ :-[ :-[

and i said i would do the next clean for free and try and remove the scratched. and she said "okay thankyou"  ;D :o ;D

RESULT HEY  ;D

so my plan is to toothpaste the scratch and use cellulose thinners to get the paint off the frame and glass then tell her ive got some better chemicals and done the paint removal in the end and hopefully i will gt the scratch out too! and she should be overjoyed

i know its a bit dishonest and i do feel bad, but i cant really afford to replace the glass without skinting myself and its a lesson learned and the patio door is very old too  :-[

what do you guys recon then?

george

nice one m8!
try the colgate or tcut or cutting compound! m8 it works rubbing circular motion or you could get a small buffer/polisher,slightly wet it first,i used to have a car detailing company and used many a buffer on glass to get scratches and gauges out!
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niceandclean

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2011, 02:00:11 pm »
i think from now on im not gonna blade anything other than normal (float) glass,

if i see a mark in the corner that says anything other than the brand im gonna use thinners to remove paint and not touch it with a blade?!?

what do you lot recon?

Toughened has the same surface as float, only difference is the process it has gone through to make it toughened. So if your going to scratch toughened glass with your scraper, you will do the same with float glass. Obviously you do not want to use a blade on externally coated glass like self cleaning ect. Also, you will only get very very light surface scratches out by polishing with Toothpaste or T Cut. Ive used Brasso for light scrathes before , but if you can get a fingernail in the scratch, you will have to use something like Cerium Oxide with a buffing wheel. But, depending on how deep they are they can take anything from 45 mins upwards to polish out, and you would really need to know what you are doing, or practise on some old glass before doing it for a customer. Sometimes it can be more cost effective to replace the sealed unit than mess about with polishing if its really bad.

VSP Home Care

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2011, 08:49:05 pm »
Head over to www.detailingworld.co.uk and ask for some help there.  There are quite a few glass guys on there and it might be possible to polish out, if you're looking at paying for a new one I'd certainly call a glass man in first.

A new Patio door unit installed will not come cheap I'm sorry to say  :(

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2011, 10:16:43 pm »
i think from now on im not gonna blade anything other than normal (float) glass,

if i see a mark in the corner that says anything other than the brand im gonna use thinners to remove paint and not touch it with a blade?!?

what do you lot recon?

Toughened has the same surface as float, only difference is the process it has gone through to make it toughened. So if your going to scratch toughened glass with your scraper, you will do the same with float glass. Obviously you do not want to use a blade on externally coated glass like self cleaning ect. Also, you will only get very very light surface scratches out by polishing with Toothpaste or T Cut. Ive used Brasso for light scrathes before , but if you can get a fingernail in the scratch, you will have to use something like Cerium Oxide with a buffing wheel. But, depending on how deep they are they can take anything from 45 mins upwards to polish out, and you would really need to know what you are doing, or practise on some old glass before doing it for a customer. Sometimes it can be more cost effective to replace the sealed unit than mess about with polishing if its really bad.

 i thought toughened was the same as float too, but ive heard that its more prone to scratching than float! how can this be?

Nathanael Jones

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2011, 10:22:41 pm »
ALL glass doors by law should be toughened glass.

Even normal glass will scratch easily at times though, fabricating debris etc mean you can never guarantee that you won't damage so always get a waiver signed.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: scratched patio door glass
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2011, 10:33:19 pm »
ALL glass doors by law should be toughened glass.

Even normal glass will scratch easily at times though, fabricating debris etc mean you can never guarantee that you won't damage so always get a waiver signed.
thanks mate thats sound advice i will follow in future