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sven

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TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« on: October 12, 2011, 12:11:58 pm »
anyone who uses or is thinking of using a telesale company to gain contracts then this is defo worth a read.

http://www.businesszone.co.uk/topic/marketing-pr/social-media-revolution-has-internet-killed-telesales-star/37480?ref=ukbf

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 12:31:51 pm »
thanks sven, interesting read that!

GB

Catherine10

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 03:46:19 pm »
GB, just putting this up, hope you may find it of some use, and sort of how telesales works.


Gaining commercial contracts via telemarketing


Depending on a cleaning company’s preferences and setup, commercial contracts may be the Holy Grail for some folk. No more waiting for Mrs Bennett to remember to pay you the seven quid she still owes you and no more dealing with the hungry Rottie left parked in the back garden. Of course, if Mrs Bennett also owns a company as well, you're still in the do-do's!

So, how to attract commercial contracts? A well designed website is always a good start though pretty useless on its own to attract new business. Without successful SEO implementation, the site will remain off the radar. Links, articles, blogs and other social networking all help but need constant attention to keep yourselves bouncing up to the top of listing pages. Websites should be viewed as part of the bigger marketing objective.

Word of mouth will rarely work on the commercial side of the things as most will be perfectly happy to leave their competitors squandering in the dirt, smugly waving from their squeaky clean premises. Business is harsh – harsh but fair! Well-designed, sign-written vans may help, sandwich-boarding the chaps from across the road!

Flyers, either leaflet dropped or emailed may be successful if you're lucky, but how do you know that they've reached the decision makers? As we all know, most end up in the bin or are directed to trash via the delete button or spam filter. All in all, this method lacks the control of getting past the receptionists’ wicket keepers gloves!

Cold calling is another route but again needs a good pair of Nike's to swerve past the receptionists attention only to find that the decision maker is in another bloody meeting. Also, with the price of petrol nowadays, a Segway or an electric Noddy car is a necessity!

So now we get to telemarketing, many of the problems apparent in the above are still there, it is just a question of damage limitation. Due to cheaper telephone services and without the need for Nike's (slippers will do) or even navigating a Segway over a kerbstone, telemarketing provides a relatively efficient method of marketing.

The downside of telemarketing is the cost of TPS and TPCS laws, unfortunately it is illegal to pick the Yellow Pages up and call prospects, willy-nilly.  Companies can be fined £5000 for calling companies that have opted out of unsolicited sales calls. The process of acquiring TPS checked phone numbers is relatively simple and there are several companies providing this service – at a price, though deals are available dependent on demand.

The advantages of contact via phone over the routes mentioned above is a question of control. The ability of the telemarketer to get past the first line of defence ie the receptionist is the first hurdle. Armed, only with a headset and slippers (flip flops will do) there is an improved chance that the defences can be breached in order to speak with the decision maker. If the decision maker is unavailable, telemarketers can then find an appropriate time to call back - the lead is not dead. This, in effect, is a direct improvement on the “straight to bin, trash or spam phenomenon”.

Another advantage is the ability to create an on-going database of clients’ requirements. Companies contracted to specific cleaners may reveal details of the current contract allowing you to “stick your nose in” at a time close to contract closure.

Cloud computing has also helped the telemarketers, especially if there are more than one person working for a client. Document sharing and the ability to update instantly simplifies the process by removing the need to work off multiple records. The client can also monitor the progress of the campaign as it happens and keep a check on how fast the flip flops are spinning.

A well designed PDF flyer raises the stakes even more for the telemarketer when dealing with bosses who are too busy or too far into their second sandwich. At least the info is reaching the target audience.

All in all, telemarketing offers an accurate record of a campaigns progress and can be referenced for future marketing strategies.

cozy

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 03:52:24 pm »
anyone who uses or is thinking of using a telesale company to gain contracts then this is defo worth a read.

http://www.businesszone.co.uk/topic/marketing-pr/social-media-revolution-has-internet-killed-telesales-star/37480?ref=ukbf

Yeah, came in really handy, you signing up to this forum today and posting something about telesales. Just what Kate 2 needed really. She stalks forums trying to peddle an online george system.  ;D ;D ;D

Oh, by the way, Kate2 is / was Kate1 now Catherine10  ;D

sven

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Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 04:24:08 pm »
Hi Cozy.

the reason I posted it was not to promote telesales but to show that they are really a thing of the past and I for one would never waste my money on them.

as the article points out very clearly  these so called pester you telesales have now really had their day as more and more companies are finding their suppliers through the internet and via recommendation.

in fact a awful lot of companies have telephone systems to bar cold calling as they hate being pestered with the hard sell

Sven

Catherine10

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 04:27:54 pm »
Sven, they wont be though, telesales has been and always will be a part of marketing strategies.  Its been a proved solution to business for years.  How do you find out your prospects unless you communicate?

cozy

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 04:31:26 pm »
Sven, they wont be though, telesales has been and always will be a part of marketing strategies. 

Yes, but stalking domestic window cleaners by e-mail from their profiles gives the impression of being desperate. When you had your own section on the other forum, nobody read or posted on it because nobody was interested. You deleted your account on there and here at least twice, now you're trying to advertise for free again by in-direct threads and posts.

It's entertaining watching you go pearshaped after a few bottles though. So carry on.  ;D

Steve CM

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 04:32:04 pm »
anyone who uses or is thinking of using a telesale company to gain contracts then this is defo worth a read.

http://www.businesszone.co.uk/topic/marketing-pr/social-media-revolution-has-internet-killed-telesales-star/37480?ref=ukbf

Yeah, came in really handy, you signing up to this forum today and posting something about telesales. Just what Kate 2 needed really. What a coincidence!! She stalks forums trying to peddle an online george system, and along you came today and posted that. ;D ;D ;D

Oh, by the way, Kate2 is / was Kate1 now Catherine10  ;D

I find it entertaining how wrong you are cozy ;D its nothing to do with her. The abuse and stick you give her on here is entertaining as she is probably one of the most sincere and nicest people i've met. You seem to have an image that she is all cloak and dagger, that she has other motives...highly amusing. I think you need to cool off but then you won't and come back with an equally amusing rant about a person you know nothing of...;D thanks for the entertainment 8)

cozy

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 04:33:55 pm »
You're welcome Steve, as soon as I give a toss about your opinion of someone, I'll let you know. Enjoy eachothers company. You deserve it  ;D

Steve CM

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 04:36:43 pm »
did your mum bully you as a kid? Maybe you need to do some soul searching in regards to why you hate women so much? :P ;D

cozy

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 04:38:11 pm »
did your mum bully you as a kid? Maybe you need to do some soul searching in regards to why you hate women so much? :P ;D

Didn't you get enough oxygen as a kid or what's your problem? Why stick up for your drunken buddy Kate2? Are you related or what?  ;D ;D ;D

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 04:42:04 pm »
thanks cathrine10, very interesting!


Catherine10

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 04:43:43 pm »
You welcome GB, whether you decide to go down that route, theres loads of telemarketers out there that would be able to help - least you have control and can determine what hours, what areas etc, just another option

andyatkinson

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Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 04:46:10 pm »
thanks catherine, good stuff

sven

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Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 05:43:41 pm »
Sven, they wont be though, telesales has been and always will be a part of marketing strategies.  Its been a proved solution to business for years.  How do you find out your prospects unless you communicate?
















I dont know if youve noticed but the internet has changed the way may a business do their deals.  and thats why a lot of the blue chip companies wont entertain telesales

as the item read   video killed the radio star  and the comparison is the same with telesales,     I dont do the media sites but I know the likes of apple have a huge following through theres and with it comes an awful lot of trade

telesales have and always will try the hard sell and the big companies now have them blocked,  there was even a guy on dragens den whos now making a fortune with his device which blocks telesales which I need to get as I still get pestered by cold callers  with the same old line of hi how are you today but before they get to finish their sentence Ive hyng the phone up.

I'm sure their is still a market for them as the gullable market is still a booming market

Catherine10

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2011, 06:02:48 pm »
But like I say, I do it day in and day out, it will always be a marketing tool. 

Communication is the key here.

Have you got on the phone Sven?

Steve Sed

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 06:05:08 pm »
It seems to me that if you are targetting commercial work you either wander around industrial estates and go into receptions or you cold call. Sven, if you are targetting commercial work I reckon that you will have as much success with commercial as you will have with domestic by just waiting for the phone to ring.

It seems to me that there are really only two ways to grow substantially a wc business. Direct mail and canvassing. You can't "do" direct mail with businesses unless you have the contact name. Realistically you can only get that by telemarketing. Flashy websites, SEO or whatever will only ever account for a tiny proportion.

Catherine10

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2011, 06:06:55 pm »
Steve Sed - hit the nail on the head

cozy

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 06:19:28 pm »
Sven, they wont be though, telesales has been and always will be a part of marketing strategies.  Its been a proved solution to business for years.  How do you find out your prospects unless you communicate?
















I dont know if youve noticed but the internet has changed the way may a business do their deals.  and thats why a lot of the blue chip companies wont entertain telesales

as the item read   video killed the radio star  and the comparison is the same with telesales,     I dont do the media sites but I know the likes of apple have a huge following through theres and with it comes an awful lot of trade

telesales have and always will try the hard sell and the big companies now have them blocked,  there was even a guy on dragens den whos now making a fortune with his device which blocks telesales which I need to get as I still get pestered by cold callers  with the same old line of hi how are you today but before they get to finish their sentence Ive hyng the phone up.

I'm sure their is still a market for them as the gullable market is still a booming market

What  gives telesales a bad press is when these "experts" go cold contacting forum members by e-mail and stalking them to try and get work. That's sad. Has happened on here.

Catherine10

Re: TELE SALES COMPANY'S
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 07:02:46 pm »
ok? but im not sure thats happened to me..............