[mikecam]

anyone who uses or is thinking of using a telesale company to gain contracts then this is defo worth a read.

http://www.businesszone.co.uk/topic/marketing-pr/social-media-revolution-has-internet-killed-telesales-star/37480?ref=ukbf

I like what you did there 'sven'. You took a bit of factual analysis and turned it into a dig a telesales. I'm still not seeing milk or meat for sale in any of my social media, nor have i been targeted for sales by any telesales companies to try and sell me it.

Then the internet was born and the start of the 'Research Age' came about.

Today buyers still 'Google it' before they choose to enter into a sales process

Two snippets from what you quoted 'sven'. I have to agree, the first thing i'm thinking is that i aint just gonna pay my window clear £8, and i'm not gonna take Tescos word on the price of milk, i'm gonna google it?!!
 Or doesn't it work like that !! LMFAO !!
 Check out my deals on dog food and shampoo on facebook !! LOL !!

[Dave Willis]

"Cold calling as we know it is dying. Sales professionals hate making cold calls and people hate receiving them. People like to buy; they don't like to be sold to. Cold calling is interruption selling, you are pushing your product or service onto the client when they dontt want to buy.
 
What you should be doing is 'social calling' – you need to interact with the client before you ring them up and sell to them. You need to make a connection with them first. You need to be on out there on the internet, where they can find you, talking to them and interacting with them in their chosen online environment...and then you should call."

Oh, look at the second paragraph - remind you of anyone on this site?
 

[Catherine10]

um so Clozzet took it upon himself that my business had a connection with the original poster, Clozzet really grow up why are you so aggressive why are on the defensive ALL THE BLOODY TIME, it dosent help. you put people down,  your aggressive, your still on my bloody back a year ago= just STOP -anything I post your right up there on my back, just bloody stop.  Why are you doing it? Are you just naturally nasty?

[Steve_c]

anyone who uses or is thinking of using a telesale company to gain contracts then this is defo worth a read.

http://www.businesszone.co.uk/topic/marketing-pr/social-media-revolution-has-internet-killed-telesales-star/37480?ref=ukbf

Thanks for that Sven very interesting read. Welcome to the forum.

[mikecam]

"Cold calling as we know it is dying. Sales professionals hate making cold calls and people hate receiving them. People like to buy; they don't like to be sold to. Cold calling is interruption selling, you are pushing your product or service onto the client when they dontt want to buy.
 
What you should be doing is 'social calling' – you need to interact with the client before you ring them up and sell to them. You need to make a connection with them first. You need to be on out there on the internet, where they can find you, talking to them and interacting with them in their chosen online environment...and then you should call."

Oh, look at the second paragraph - remind you of anyone on this site?
 

I've no idea of some of the beefs here between the personalities on this site but i personally find telesales a very useful tool. I don't use anyone to do it either, i do it myself. Its a lot easier and less time consuming than driving out and knocking where larger properties /complexes are concerned.

[cozy]

um so Clozzet took it upon himself that my business had a connection with the original poster, Clozzet really grow up why are you so aggressive why are on the defensive ALL THE BLOODY TIME, it dosent help. you put people down,  your aggressive, your still on my bloody back a year ago= just STOP -anything I post your right up there on my back, just bloody stop.  Why are you doing it?

OOOER chill !! You seem a bit upset, was it something someone said?

[Catherine10]

But you are, you come across as a nasty person I feel like I cant say anything you stalk me and as soon as  I say anything your there to put me down......... Im not sure why you are knocking me continuously - I just dont get why you do it?

[cozy]

You poor woman, it can't be easy being in telesales. Have you confided in close friends? It's not such a stigma now days being in telesales. You could try consulting your GP about it. He can put you in touch with people who can help you get back to a normal life. This wont happen over the course of a few days. It's hard work getting out of telesales, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. But be persistant and stick with the course of tablets that you will be given by the nice young men in the clean white coats, and one day you'll be able to talk and interact with normal people again.

Telesales doesn't have to be for ever. Just try and get the help you need.

[Catherine10]

And there you have it you are nasty

[niceandclean]

Tele Sales works for my business, Fact! I have a friend who has been in TS for a good 15 years, in fact he is now sales director working for a safety and security product company. 65% of their business comes from a sale after a cold call. The products are online to buy from themselves, from other major online companies like screwfix ect! So to say it doesn't work is not true, it all depends on your type of business and who you are targeting. All of my School, College, Care Home and local blue chip contracts have come from a cold call to arrange an appointment, to then go and SELL my business face to face with the decision maker.  

[andyatkinson]

cozy, i like your posts usually, but come on seriously play nice, i like catherines posts and she has taken the time to help me out, so please back off a bit

[cozy]

OK Andy, I'll go and make a cup of tea. She could pick a fight in a phone box though. 

[andyatkinson]

thanks

[Catherine10]

Thank you  Andy

[sven]

it seems an inocent yet honest post by myself has become a major topic of debate which in my opinion is good and healthy.

although I still retain that I feel telesales is a thing of yesterday and internet and social media are taking over.

I put the post up to let people decide for themselves but I have to be honest I knew it would entertain me,   well what else would I do on a wednesday 

its certainly worked wonders for casting out some of your demons 

[Catherine10]

What  gives telesales a bad press is when these "experts" go cold contacting forum members by e-mail and stalking them to try and get work. That's sad. Has happened on here.

Thats your quote Cozy.

Once again, PROOF PLEASE AND SOLD FACTS

Please can you supply further details of who I have contacted. (in your world, stop assuming, once again)  Also the email addresses please?  Names and numbers would be helpful also?  I await your alledged conduct of my business, because you obviously know how I conduct my business better than myself.

It would be so fantastic to know who I have contacted via email, I must be bleeding daft, thank you cozy for your grand insight into how my business works.  I look forward to your grand knowledge on my clients, because you obviously know the lot, (and more than I do)

Np could you give me the emails that I have contacted, because you seem to be a "pocket expert" on how I do business it would be great to know?

I would be very grateful if you could list the email addresses below. (the ones Ive stalked that is)

I look forward to you supplying the relevant details

I think im missing out on stuff because all these people I have emailed, wow.

If you could let me know I would be grateful

Can you put it in an excel sheet because there might be a few according to yourself (because I need to keep track of everybody that I have emailed)

Oh can I just add, I DONT NEED ANY MORE WORK, does that help?

To be honest I am so shocked that you jumped in with the guy Sven thinking we were in some kind of conspiracy, wow.

Dont listen to gossip also (do you want me to bring that up)

That just stinks - you jumped in saying I was in conspiracy - really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Its completely Bizzare.

I await details of who I have contacted..............If you can supply.............

Ew interesting, stalking, can we run a poll on that?  I am very interested why you keep using the word "stalking" what are you on about? Its madness

If you were to take the time to look about the article I posted where are my contact details on it - NOWHERE  If I wanted to plug my business dont you think I would have a link in my signature - think it through.

Im just getting slightly tired of being accused of stuff that I dont do.....I dont email anybody, I dont stalk anybody, most of the guys I work for arent on this forum

[Frankybadboy]

What  gives telesales a bad press is when these "experts" go cold contacting forum members by e-mail and stalking them to try and get work. That's sad. Has happened on here.

tell me if iam wrong but i dont see him naming you once kate,sorry catherine.

[Steve Rothwell]

Catherine/Kate whomever,

Cozy was asked to back off ...............

he did  .......... admittedly he may have gone to bed ..........BUT he did ...

So you come straight back and try to have a go at him................

WHY ?

you really are a glutton for punishment.
You deserve all you get I am afraid.....



Cozy go for it  

[Catherine10]

Yes, but stalking domestic window cleaners by e-mail from their profiles gives the impression of being desperate. When you had your own section on the other forum, nobody read or posted on it because nobody was interested. You deleted your account on there and here at least twice, now you're trying to advertise for free again by in-direct threads and posts.

It's entertaining watching you go pearshaped after a few bottles though. So carry on.  

Spot on Stu   She always ends up in scraps on here though, she e-mailed the BFG and wound him up so he deleted his account. He said she kept stalking him too.

What rubbish if you want to ask what the mistake was, why dont you ask me directly instead of 2nd guessing what went on



So that was not directed at me???

And go for it Cozy is not encouraging being nasty??

[Catherine10]

Catherine/Kate whomever,

Cozy was asked to back off ...............

he did  .......... admittedly he may have gone to bed ..........BUT he did ...

So you come straight back and try to have a go at him................

WHY ?

you really are a glutton for punishment.


You deserve all you get I am afraid.....



Cozy go for it  

So Its ok for him to have a go at me in the first place?  And now hes backed down - I should be grateful?