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garry22

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2011, 06:58:05 pm »
Clare,

I have both Dry Fusion and HWE.

I HAVE done pubs with DF but there will come a point (usually determined by the level of soiling) where HWE is more suitable.

Generally speaking, the pub stuff is more likely to be restoration, rather than regular clean ups. You may find yourself getting bogged down and running out of time

Why not sub the carpet side to someone with a truckmount and concentrate on the other stuff yourself?

jim mca

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2011, 07:23:27 pm »
clare

You have more than enough equipment go and get the training done before your head frys

Jim

Len Gribble

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2011, 08:11:06 pm »
Andrew

Yes but never ever on a pub far too much black top well on the ones I do. I may post bonnet depending.

Phillip

(Restore as prespray) don’t you find it skinks to high heaven and you need to open every window



Clare

carpet suby destroyed a carpet and you lost the contract?????? As for We really don't want to do carpets but the client is adamant no sub cons, ways round that don’t tell them it’s a suby ;)


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Phil @ Extreme Clean

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2011, 08:13:37 pm »
Restore doesn't stink and it's only to be used as a prespray although i did use it with the pads when i ran out of activator lol.
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garry22

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2011, 08:18:53 pm »
Quote
Restore doesn't stink

You have obviously never had to stand in a long queue in a garage in a very rough part of town; after your sprayer seal has blown and covered you head to foot in strong lavender perfume!

Phil @ Extreme Clean

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2011, 08:19:39 pm »
Haha you mean a nice stink lol.
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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2011, 02:01:11 pm »
Is that what you carpet pro's call LM, which I assume and will stand coorected is low moisture.

I have exhausted the research and really don't want to do this but I have no choice, my head is in bits with micro splitters, was told will clean anything, pre spray, scrub, extract, does that mean more equipment, ie numatic over the carpet then extract with cc machine.

I need a drink. ;D

Hi Claire,

I was in your position a while back and I decided to go with HWE.  Its more versatile and will clean pretty much any carpet to a high standard.  Dry Fusion and other low moisture systems are great and also have their own role in carpet cleaning but when dealing with a pub carpet I would always go with the HWE.

If you have a steempro why not just use that.  i dont understand why you would want to spend between £2-3k on a dry fusion system when you've already got a hwe machine there.

yes it leaves the carpets wet but anything over 6-8 hours drying time is probably down to operator error rather than the hwe (unless its got a mechanical fault).  this can be reduced by opening windows, doors to create airflow.

As for the process its not all that difficult and i would do it this way...

Step 1. - good vacuuming all over the carpet with a sebo (ideally bs36) or use whatever vac you have.  anything is better than nothing.

Step 2 - depending on how dirty it is pre-spray with either something like prochems pre-spray gold (low level staining), ultrapac renovate (medium to high soiling) or if its really bad something like powerburst or traffic lane cleaner.   Put down extra spray on the dirtiest areas and the traffic lanes (ie where people walk).  in know people always say pre-test first but the chances are pub carpets are always minging and theres a good chance they havent seen the actual pattern in a while.  If you're using powerburst or traffic lane cleaner dont leave it on too long.

Step 3 - you have to work this in with either a carpet brush or if you have an agitation machine like a sebo duo or scrubber/envirodri etc...  this will make sure that the pre-spray goes all over the carpet fibres.  you could even spray 4-6m2 at a time and go at it with a stiff handbrush if you dont have any of the others.

Step 4 - extract out all of the gunge with the steempro and hot hot water with something like fibre and fabric rinse to neutralise the ph and stop quick re-soiling.

Use your air movers to help up the drying times and go over the carpet with plenty of dry passes (without solution coming out) to get as much of the water out of the carpet as possible.

I hope this helps but HWE really is the best tool for really dirty carpets.

Steve Gunn

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2011, 06:11:24 pm »
I have used d/f successfully on pub carpets where noise would be an issue working after they close through the night,it takes twice as long as hwe but acceptable results can be achieved

Len Gribble

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2011, 07:03:48 pm »
Phillip

So activator neutralise the smell of restore ;D


Steve

How many pads did you use? Yes noise could be an issue with a TM but a porty me at 07.45 last Sunday you try D/F’ing seats ;)
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)