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Helen

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2011, 05:37:34 am »
some of you guys seem to have insider info on the drug scene.  that would be an advantage but i have no such knowledge.
  When i was interviewing the latest guy ,on the street outside his home, a car with a noisey exhaust drove by. the new guy did a sort of secret quick hand signal to the driver, as if he was making a letter  O  or E with his first finger and thumb.  maybe im paranoid ,or maybe this signal meant something . lets hope it just meant hello
Bobby are you having a laugh with us all?
Interview - on the street outside his home.........  not quite starting off how you want to go in is it?


dazmond

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2011, 07:32:00 am »
the secret sign bobby means him and his mate are gonna knock you off your ladders then steal your round while your in a wheelchair.theyll work with you for a few months to get to know your round and customers then BAM!!you ll be in hospital crippled and they have your work!!!

theyll also probably do this under the influence of some sort of drugs,probably angel dust or crystal meth!!theyll enjoy knocking you off your ladders as well as laughing loudly!knowing they ve got a good round handed to em on a plate(well not that good!but they up the prices after a few cleans!).


mind how you go one scrim bob!!


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

bobby p

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2011, 07:47:09 am »
Daz-crystal meth ! ive only seen that on the american show "cops" ,  id like to think that isnt here yet in Suffolk  :)

  to Helen, where did you used to interview your workers and other tips u learnt to look for when you had workers  id like to hear
  i interview them at their home as its convenient for me to call in on my way home . at the new guys house i noticed his windows were clean and he had a certain presence about him that will be popular on the streets(looks like telly savalas,but with hair)

 a  sign of fitness is if i drop something small  on the street and they DONT  groan as they pick it up ,pick it up quickly too

dazmond

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2011, 07:54:28 am »
is that your fitness test bobby? ;D ;D ;D ;D

i groan just reaching forward to get the remote off the coffee table!!!WFP makes you lazy!!stay fit!stay trad bob!!! ;D ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

H S and Son

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2011, 07:54:56 am »
Bobby, you are either on a wind up or as an individual who runs a business you are the equivalent of being unemployable only it's you who wants to do the employing. I'm not sure if there is a word to describe that person.

Bobby, what does it matter what sign this guy gave this other guy, what does it matter that the guy had a noisy exhaust? You're a paranoid snob methinks and need to sort your attitude out before you try to employ again for their sakes if not yours. You're cruising for an employment tribunal carrying on like that.

H S and Son

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2011, 07:58:09 am »
Daz-crystal meth ! ive only seen that on the american show "cops" ,  id like to think that isnt here yet in Suffolk  :)

  to Helen, where did you used to interview your workers and other tips u learnt to look for when you had workers  id like to hear
  i interview them at their home as its convenient for me to call in on my way home . at the new guys house i noticed his windows were clean and he had a certain presence about him that will be popular on the streets(looks like telly savalas,but with hair)

 a  sign of fitness is if i drop something small  on the street and they DONT  groan as they pick it up ,pick it up quickly too


No, I've just read this you are definitely on a windup.

StockClean

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2011, 08:13:55 am »
Alot of posts on here this morning, havent got time to read em all, but here is my opinion.

If i was employing, the rules would be.

1) No smoking of any kind during work hours. It looks horrible, smells discusting, and violates the customers rights. I have seen window cleaners working, with fAgs hanging out their mouths its just an awful image on our industry.

2) Employees must not swear, mess about on the job, or act in any way that can be seen as antisocial.

3) Employees must wear full uniform, and saftey boots

4) Criminal background checks are mandentry; if employee does have a record it dosent mean that he wont be able to work for me, as i do belive in second chances.

5) As far as drug taking is concrened, i coulnt care less what they do outside of work hours. Not my business, however in work hours no recreational drugs of any kind please. Imagine the complications having a cop pull over one of me lads for drugs on the job?  :o

6) Employees will be on a starting salary 18k per year, rising up to to 30k (depending on performance) after 2 years of service, with the option to work towards rounds manager.

I have worked out that in order to employ someone in a van in this manner, each van needs to be  generating around 100k a year.



mark dew

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2011, 06:14:45 pm »
Daz-crystal meth ! ive only seen that on the american show "cops" ,  id like to think that isnt here yet in Suffolk  :)

  to Helen, where did you used to interview your workers and other tips u learnt to look for when you had workers  id like to hear
  i interview them at their home as its convenient for me to call in on my way home . at the new guys house i noticed his windows were clean and he had a certain presence about him that will be popular on the streets(looks like telly savalas,but with hair)

 a  sign of fitness is if i drop something small  on the street and they DONT  groan as they pick it up ,pick it up quickly too


No, I've just read this you are definitely on a windup.

haha... yes it's a tricky one.  ;D
Where  in sufffolk are you bobby? I'm also in suffolk. Is it contagious?? ;D

bobby p

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2011, 06:21:14 pm »
Daz-crystal meth ! ive only seen that on the american show "cops" ,  id like to think that isnt here yet in Suffolk  :)

  to Helen, where did you used to interview your workers and other tips u learnt to look for when you had workers  id like to hear
  i interview them at their home as its convenient for me to call in on my way home . at the new guys house i noticed his windows were clean and he had a certain presence about him that will be popular on the streets(looks like telly savalas,but with hair)

 a  sign of fitness is if i drop something small  on the street and they DONT  groan as they pick it up ,pick it up quickly too


No, I've just read this you are definitely on a windup.

haha... yes it's a tricky one.  ;D
Where  in sufffolk are you bobby? I'm also in suffolk. Is it contagious?? ;D
   its a known fact that old suffolk-ites are funny beggars  ,without exception they are suspicious and cautious and rarely tip .

 its different in Essex where i prefer to work. big tips there .  i live near  felixstowe  where are u Mark ?

s.w.c

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2011, 10:27:54 pm »
well interesting topic some different views, here is my two pence worth drugs used in recreation time is fine but not during working hours, each to there own some like a little smoke of white widow with a drop of rum, others hit the pub drink loads and have a line or two, then the heavy drinkers, whats right and whats wrong drugs have been around a lot longer than many know, ok some modern drugs are idiots drug, i cant see a smoke in there spare time does any wrong, but never while working, :-*

stuart mc

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2011, 10:46:48 pm »
bobby found this on facebook and it sums it up for me do as you want mate ;)

Drugs Test (This was written by British Soldier- What he says makes a lot of sense!) I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay , I train for war and eventualy deploy. I am required to pass a random urine test… for drugs l, with which I have no problem. ... What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to EARN IT for them? Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking dope. Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque? Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete it if you don't. Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in the UK!!!

if you want to test go for it, just make sure you do it legally

mikecam

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2011, 10:58:35 pm »
I think this is a two way thing. Prospective employees should ask their prospective employers if they take drugs and also ask to see some accounts so you know you're going to be paid. And a contract to guarantee your hours each week, there lots of cowboys out there in all shapes and sizes !!!
 Manual workers tend to smoke weed recreationally. Managers tend to snort a lot of coke, always be wary of an overconfident boss with the sniffles !!!
 Bobby was that fella doing a salt and peppa shaker over your head and behind your back?

mikecam

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2011, 11:05:06 pm »
bobby found this on facebook and it sums it up for me do as you want mate ;)

Drugs Test (This was written by British Soldier- What he says makes a lot of sense!) I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay , I train for war and eventualy deploy. I am required to pass a random urine test… for drugs l, with which I have no problem. ... What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to EARN IT for them? Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking dope. Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque? Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete it if you don't. Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in the UK!!!

if you want to test go for it, just make sure you do it legally


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7142413.stm
The Army is dismissing the equivalent of almost a battalion of soldiers every year for taking drugs, a report says.   ;D ;D

SteX13

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2011, 11:10:45 pm »
Great post Stuart and awesome find Bobby.

Makes perfect sense... although its not in force for many reasons.

Not all benefit receivers spend all their money on drugs and chilling on the sofa. Many may smoke a bit of weed with their pals or snort a line on the weekend as well as look for job.

What that is saying is you cannot enjoy yourself why you are unemployed? Hardly fair.

He should stop complaining about the SMALL amount of tax payers money that goes to jobseekers and worry about the billions that is wasted elsewhere.

Maybe about the money that tax payers used to pay for him to read his newspaper on a daily basis? That alone once wasted over £700,000 a year!

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stuart mc

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2011, 11:11:31 pm »
bobby found this on facebook and it sums it up for me do as you want mate ;)

Drugs Test (This was written by British Soldier- What he says makes a lot of sense!) I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay , I train for war and eventualy deploy. I am required to pass a random urine test… for drugs l, with which I have no problem. ... What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to EARN IT for them? Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking dope. Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque? Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete it if you don't. Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in the UK!!!

if you want to test go for it, just make sure you do it legally


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7142413.stm
The Army is dismissing the equivalent of almost a battalion of soldiers every year for taking drugs, a report says.   ;D ;D

yes I know and rightly so ;) but did you know you are more likely to find on a % wise basis an airline pilot fail than a soldier ;) isn't that worrying

stuart mc

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2011, 11:17:38 pm »
Great post Stuart and awesome find Bobby.

Makes perfect sense... although its not in force for many reasons.

Not all benefit receivers spend all their money on drugs and chilling on the sofa. Many may smoke a bit of weed with their pals or snort a line on the weekend as well as look for job.

What that is saying is you cannot enjoy yourself why you are unemployed? Hardly fair.

He should stop complaining about the SMALL amount of tax payers money that goes to jobseekers and worry about the billions that is wasted elsewhere.

Maybe about the money that tax payers used to pay for him to read his newspaper on a daily basis? That alone once wasted over £700,000 a year!

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you can enjoy your self being self employed without taking drugs ;) ok I have abused the legal one drink big style in my time but it is legal, isn't it a fair idea to make benefits only available to law abider's

and if the OP only wants to employ drug free individuals what is wrong with that,

I get the feeling on this post that there is bit of drug taking individuals on this forum :-\

SteX13

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2011, 11:32:38 pm »
I imagine there is a great number of drug users. Occasional or regular, were all here  ;D

Just because alcohol is legal it by no means makes it acceptable!

And you were very ignorant to abuse something because its not illegal.

Everyone is brainwashed by what out government deems as acceptable.

Fair he doesn't want a drug user but as long as they do the job properly I don't see the problem. Of course hoping they are not on something whilst working. (on ladders anyway)




mikecam

Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2011, 11:32:53 pm »
bobby found this on facebook and it sums it up for me do as you want mate ;)

Drugs Test (This was written by British Soldier- What he says makes a lot of sense!) I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay , I train for war and eventualy deploy. I am required to pass a random urine test… for drugs l, with which I have no problem. ... What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to EARN IT for them? Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking dope. Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque? Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete it if you don't. Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in the UK!!!

if you want to test go for it, just make sure you do it legally


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7142413.stm
The Army is dismissing the equivalent of almost a battalion of soldiers every year for taking drugs, a report says.   ;D ;D

yes I know and rightly so ;) but did you know you are more likely to find on a % wise basis an airline pilot fail than a soldier ;) isn't that worrying
Not really. When i see airline pilots prosecuted for tying people up round the neck or shooting innocent people then i'll worry. Right now its a bigger worry that troops do it !!!

SteX13

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2011, 11:40:49 pm »
Course troops do it.

The majority are young 16+ year olds still with the experimenting mind set.

They do not even get kicked out straight away for failing a drugs test enless they are a high ish rank and served for a certain amount of time.

They do however get counselling and I guess get kicked if caught after that.

The fact that most class A's aren't detectable after a certain time is too easy for them to get on it on the weekend and happily pass on a Monday morning.

Main thing you have to be worried about is the guys running tings now who were once testing acid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rWnQphPdQ

G Griffin

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Re: drug testing the workers
« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2011, 11:41:53 pm »
Drugs and employees; it's pot luck; luck of the draw....
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