[Alex Allen]

The elite poles are better to use than the gardiners there is only a small Difference in weight.

that's what i thought when i compard the two 25ft poles side by side
any small weight difference either way at this reach made no difference

The Elite25 (24.1ft actual) is 26cm shorter than the SLX25 (25ft actual) and is heavier than the SLX25 - The SLX25 is 13% lighter per extended cm than the Elite25 . From experience this weight difference is very noticeable when working with the pole. It is very easy to hold a pole up and say it is similar in weight - actually working with them will tell a very different story - fact.  

you're bound to say your pole is better than the Elite Pole's; all the other manufactures do the same

i did work with both pole's and not just hold them, your right working with them was a different, not much though just a bit different and like others have posted the Elite pole felt better to use than the sl-x pole. The Elite pole actually felt better to use the longer you worked with it, it is more rigid and that may be the reason why

[Alex Gardiner]

The elite poles are better to use than the gardiners there is only a small Difference in weight.

that's what i thought when i compard the two 25ft poles side by side
any small weight difference either way at this reach made no difference

The Elite25 (24.1ft actual) is 26cm shorter than the SLX25 (25ft actual) and is heavier than the SLX25 - The SLX25 is 13% lighter per extended cm than the Elite25 . From experience this weight difference is very noticeable when working with the pole. It is very easy to hold a pole up and say it is similar in weight - actually working with them will tell a very different story - fact.  

you're bound to say your pole is better than the Elite Pole's; all the other manufactures do the same

i did work with both pole's and not just hold them, your right working with them was a different, not much though just a bit different and like others have posted the Elite pole felt better to use than the sl-x pole. The Elite pole actually felt better to use the longer you worked with it, it is more rigid and that may be the reason why

What pole 'you' prefer is an individual matter - I did not say which pole was better, those are your words - what I did do was post actual facts about each pole.


'Alex.' - until you start posting under your real name unfortunately very few people will take what you say with any credibility - either as a poster or a supplier. I and several others (including CIU Admin) know exactly who you are and your supplier affiliations. When you are upfront about this , then it may be worth listening to your monumentally biased postings.  

I am flattered in a way though as you only came on briefly at about 2.15pm and all you did was post two 'Anti-Gardiner' posts and then quickly logged off again. Easy to see your purpose and interest though 

[John Walker]

The elite poles are better to use than the gardiners there is only a small Difference in weight.

that's what i thought when i compard the two 25ft poles side by side
any small weight difference either way at this reach made no difference

The Elite25 (24.1ft actual) is 26cm shorter than the SLX25 (25ft actual) and is heavier than the SLX25 - The SLX25 is 13% lighter per extended cm than the Elite25 . From experience this weight difference is very noticeable when working with the pole. It is very easy to hold a pole up and say it is similar in weight - actually working with them will tell a very different story - fact.  

you're bound to say your pole is better than the Elite Pole's; all the other manufactures do the same

i did work with both pole's and not just hold them, your right working with them was a different, not much though just a bit different and like others have posted the Elite pole felt better to use than the sl-x pole. The Elite pole actually felt better to use the longer you worked with it, it is more rigid and that may be the reason why

What pole 'you' prefer is an individual matter, but facts are facts which is what I always refer to.

'Alex.' - until you start posting under your real name unfortunately very few people will take what you say with any credibility - either as a poster or a supplier. I and several others (including CIU Admin) know exactly who you are and your supplier affiliations. When you are upfront about this , then it may be worth listening to your monumentally biased postings.  

So Alex.

Man up and tell us all who you really are and what your connections are - I'm intrigued now.  

[mikecam]

Oh sorry you said it was identical to mine, and mine is 1200 with 15 ltr so it's not the same then, please point me in the direction of the ALDI gutter vacuum please?

I said a version of , not identical. Looks like its higher spec than yours? i got the price wrong its £64.99
http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID-D5D578EF-7A0AB311/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_22297.htm?offerdate=&idcheck=true&ar2=&ERR=IDNOTFOUND

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

The elite poles are better to use than the gardiners there is only a small Difference in weight.

that's what i thought when i compard the two 25ft poles side by side
any small weight difference either way at this reach made no difference

The Elite25 (24.1ft actual) is 26cm shorter than the SLX25 (25ft actual) and is heavier than the SLX25 - The SLX25 is 13% lighter per extended cm than the Elite25 . From experience this weight difference is very noticeable when working with the pole. It is very easy to hold a pole up and say it is similar in weight - actually working with them will tell a very different story - fact.  

you're bound to say your pole is better than the Elite Pole's; all the other manufactures do the same

i did work with both pole's and not just hold them, your right working with them was a different, not much though just a bit different and like others have posted the Elite pole felt better to use than the sl-x pole. The Elite pole actually felt better to use the longer you worked with it, it is more rigid and that may be the reason why

What pole 'you' prefer is an individual matter, but facts are facts which is what I always refer to.

'Alex.' - until you start posting under your real name unfortunately very few people will take what you say with any credibility - either as a poster or a supplier. I and several others (including CIU Admin) know exactly who you are and your supplier affiliations. When you are upfront about this , then it may be worth listening to your monumentally biased postings. 

So Alex.

Man up and tell us all who you really are and what your connections are - I'm intigued now.   

It's not hard John & it's been going on for yonks! 

[Craig Trevain]

Oh sorry you said it was identical to mine, and mine is 1200 with 15 ltr so it's not the same then, please point me in the direction of the ALDI gutter vacuum please?

I said a version of , not identical. Looks like its higher spec than yours? i got the price wrong its £64.99
http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID-D5D578EF-7A0AB311/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_22297.htm?offerdate=&idcheck=true&ar2=&ERR=IDNOTFOUND

So its good for gutters that are a meter from the ground, fantastic.

[mikecam]

Oh sorry you said it was identical to mine, and mine is 1200 with 15 ltr so it's not the same then, please point me in the direction of the ALDI gutter vacuum please?

I said a version of , not identical. Looks like its higher spec than yours? i got the price wrong its £64.99
http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID-D5D578EF-7A0AB311/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_22297.htm?offerdate=&idcheck=true&ar2=&ERR=IDNOTFOUND

So its good for gutters that are a meter from the ground, fantastic.

You're a funny guy Craig, quick with critiscism of other suppliers and yet nothing yourself that stands out above any of them.

[Craig Trevain]

No we are a janitorial supply shop, nothing major , but very handy to contractors as we carry 60-£70000
worth of stock, for  ALL types  of cleaning.

I criticise cult type hype thats all, as its pretty pathetic, and i do this with my name clearly marked, unlike most who criticise me good self.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

No we are a janitorial supply shop, nothing major , but very handy to contractors as we carry 60-£70000
worth of stock, for  ALL types  of cleaning.

I criticise cult type hype thats all, as its pretty pathetic, and i do this with my name clearly marked, unlike most who criticise me good self.

Cult type hype? What do you mean?

Simon.

[Paul Coleman]

No we are a janitorial supply shop, nothing major , but very handy to contractors as we carry 60-£70000
worth of stock, for  ALL types  of cleaning.

I criticise cult type hype thats all, as its pretty pathetic, and i do this with my name clearly marked, unlike most who criticise me good self.

Well I've got an array of Gardiner poles leaning against my living room wall.  I drop flower petals in front of them every morning and kiss the poles before I go to work.  I never take the poles out with me as they are too precious to clean windows with.

[Alex Allen]

The elite poles are better to use than the gardiners there is only a small Difference in weight.

that's what i thought when i compard the two 25ft poles side by side
any small weight difference either way at this reach made no difference

The Elite25 (24.1ft actual) is 26cm shorter than the SLX25 (25ft actual) and is heavier than the SLX25 - The SLX25 is 13% lighter per extended cm than the Elite25 . From experience this weight difference is very noticeable when working with the pole. It is very easy to hold a pole up and say it is similar in weight - actually working with them will tell a very different story - fact.  

you're bound to say your pole is better than the Elite Pole's; all the other manufactures do the same

i did work with both pole's and not just hold them, your right working with them was a different, not much though just a bit different and like others have posted the Elite pole felt better to use than the sl-x pole. The Elite pole actually felt better to use the longer you worked with it, it is more rigid and that may be the reason why

What pole 'you' prefer is an individual matter - I did not say which pole was better, those are your words - what I did do was post actual facts about each pole.


'Alex.' - until you start posting under your real name unfortunately very few people will take what you say with any credibility - either as a poster or a supplier. I and several others (including CIU Admin) know exactly who you are and your supplier affiliations. When you are upfront about this , then it may be worth listening to your monumentally biased postings.  

I am flattered in a way though as you only came on briefly at about 2.15pm and all you did was post two 'Anti-Gardiner' posts and then quickly logged off again. Easy to see your purpose and interest though 

get over yourself Alex; the elite pole is good and its better to have more choice, but i can see how that affects you

is it credible to imply the slx is a better pole by only selecting certain facts, elite poles could do the same, they could say their poles have more carbon fibre which would mean stronger pole sections and a more rigid pole

biased posting, you of all people jump in the quickest to counter any negative comments about your pole and at the same time you knock the competition, you even ask for re-test of poles and the test has to be done how you want to be carried out, now thats what you call 'Monumentally Biased'

[Alex Gardiner]

The elite poles are better to use than the gardiners there is only a small Difference in weight.

that's what i thought when i compard the two 25ft poles side by side
any small weight difference either way at this reach made no difference

The Elite25 (24.1ft actual) is 26cm shorter than the SLX25 (25ft actual) and is heavier than the SLX25 - The SLX25 is 13% lighter per extended cm than the Elite25 . From experience this weight difference is very noticeable when working with the pole. It is very easy to hold a pole up and say it is similar in weight - actually working with them will tell a very different story - fact.  

you're bound to say your pole is better than the Elite Pole's; all the other manufactures do the same

i did work with both pole's and not just hold them, your right working with them was a different, not much though just a bit different and like others have posted the Elite pole felt better to use than the sl-x pole. The Elite pole actually felt better to use the longer you worked with it, it is more rigid and that may be the reason why

What pole 'you' prefer is an individual matter - I did not say which pole was better, those are your words - what I did do was post actual facts about each pole.


'Alex.' - until you start posting under your real name unfortunately very few people will take what you say with any credibility - either as a poster or a supplier. I and several others (including CIU Admin) know exactly who you are and your supplier affiliations. When you are upfront about this , then it may be worth listening to your monumentally biased postings.  

I am flattered in a way though as you only came on briefly at about 2.15pm and all you did was post two 'Anti-Gardiner' posts and then quickly logged off again. Easy to see your purpose and interest though  

get over yourself Alex; the elite pole is good and its better to have more choice, but i can see how that affects you

is it credible to imply the slx is a better pole by only selecting certain facts, elite poles could do the same, they could say their poles have more carbon fibre which would mean stronger pole sections and a more rigid pole

biased posting, you of all people jump in the quickest to counter any negative comments about your pole and at the same time you knock the competition, you even ask for re-test of poles and the test has to be done how you want to be carried out, now thats what you call 'Monumentally Biased'

I will repeat what I posted above and you have carefully avoided addressing -

'Alex.' - until you start posting under your real name unfortunately very few people will take what you say with any credibility - either as a poster or a supplier. I and several others (including CIU Admin) know exactly who you are and your supplier affiliations. When you are upfront about this , then it may be worth listening to your monumentally biased postings.  

When someone hides behind a pseudonym and makes repeated targeted attacks against a specific supplier there is usually a reason - I know what the reason is, but others on this forum may not and I think it is time you were at least honest about your identity and affiliations when posting.

I notice that you have done exactly as you did yesterday and quickly logged on at lunch time and made just two  posts - both 'Anti-Gardiner' posts. If I didn't know who you actually are affiliated with I would suspect that you were a 'mole' planted by my own firm in order to raise our profile 

[Forum Admin]

That's enough here, we have tried to contact yourself "Alex." (not Alex Gardiner) but as your email you use is false we cannot do so. We urge you to post under REAL details and observe the forum rules.

Everyone is entitiled to their opinion but we don't accept biased views to other members merely trying to help who haven't stepped out of line.

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