[JUST GUTTERS]

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they have 38mm hose but inlet is 50mm

[Nameless Drudge]

I`ve decided i remain totally unconvinced,especially these smaller vacs with small capacity for debris.I just dont think i would want to tackle anything that was in need of doing with one of these.

[Dave Willis]

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they have 38mm hose but inlet is 50mm

Thank you

[Wc Solutions]

Hello,

 We've had many people ask us whether the 1400 watt vacs will handle weeds, mud and moss in the gutters. So we've done a video showing the 1400 watt vac clearing a gutter full of weeds, mud and moss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZBxLHC9YoU

looking forward to your new gutter coming soon!

[neil kellett]

I clean gutters all the time and anyone who does regularly will know instinctively that that muck has been placed there on purpose. There was no compaction ar tightness at all, it just completely flew out. Ive often grabbed a chunk and pulled and one or two foot would come out like a snake. I have some nice fotos but the lap top has no blue tooth. Gutter vacs wouldn't be worth a poo. For starters in the real world the roof tile is always fit too far down so you can barely get your fingers in, never mind that 2 inch pipe in the vid. And even go there about gutter spikes or whatever either. Iv researched that marked and I know they are brutal. If I was gonna get one I would go down the Omni pole full monty deal. Buy nice or buy twice. I knew spotty would like it though. He's a fighter not a grafter.

[Smudger]

Ahhh the gutter squad hits the forum once again - like others you can clearly see the gutter is staged - i believe you will find this could put you in trouble with the advertising standards Authority.

unfortunatly this type of shinanagins puts gutter vac'ing in a bad light - we did 2 today - 1 yesterday and several
earlier in the week - we don't use nicks lightweight vac - but a real heavy duty make and i can say the vac never fails to clean perfectly every time, no matter whats in the gutter or how difficault it is to reach.

Vac's are well worth getting as an add on service - from safety point alone.

perhaps the gutter squad could or should get a video of themselfs in action on one of thier many multi thousand pound contracts which were being boasted about earlier this year ?

surely you could have found at least one other gutter to clear

you dont do yourselfs any justice if what you claim is true - go do some real gutters and show us those.

good luck guys

Darran

[wpclean]

This is why I love cleaning forums like this, members exposing the fakers and saving money for genuine people in business 

[Dave Willis]

One of the biggest problems is sludge coating the suction tubes - even 3200W struggles at times. I'd also like to see the vacs coping with pine needles.

[Nick Day]

So, do you really think "Juan Sheet" gate crashed that wedding, and by sheer coincidence, cameras were conveniently positioned to see him soak up the spilt juice with his super absorbent cleaning tissue, and then see the women oogling his bum?? Off course the videos are set up!!
But just as Juan's tissue does what it says and shows, our 1400 watt vacs do what we say and show.
The rigidity from our poles and heads tightly clamped, mean that as you move the head along the gutter, any impacted muck is loosened and lifted straight away, another sweep back and forth means job done. Check your work with the mirror, clear up any bits left, and then move on to the next section. Our weedhook lifts out large weeds prior to vacuuming.
All systems get that build up of mud in the hose, we always take a couple of tubs of water and a bucket, as soon as the hose gets heavy, suck a bucket of water through, it clears it instantly.
Faking suggests a level of illegality, I can assure you that  none of our customers has ever suggested our kits do not perform as well we have advertised them to do and do you really think KÄRCHER and CLARKE International would be supplying us with vacuums and BARCLAYS supplying us with card services?
Criticism is essential for any industry to improve and move forward. However it is  far more helpful if the critics have actually tried the item they are criticising. We have owned and used all the systems out there, and any comments we have posted about them has been purely down to our experiences of using them, we also know that our regular critics on this forum have not. We also believe that failings we found with these systems have been addressed by our new kits.
Gutter cleaning could easily become a large factor as part of your incomes, many of you have large customer bases who have regular maintenance to their homes, be it window cleaning monthly, pressure washing, gardening etc. I am sure that annual gutter cleaning can easily be added to that portfolio of services.
But I am also convinced that with power and fuel prices forever creeping upwards and the growing green lobby, the move forward has got to be acheived by using the least amount of power to produce the maximum amount of suction and performance.
Before you buy any gutter cleaning system, try them all out first, because if you believe our most vehement critics (one of whom is a local competitor) you could  be making payments on an expensive kit, whilst your competitors are making money with their cheaper kits. 
Just to create a level playing field I have posted this video of an Omni systems working at 4200 watts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9CZDWZEJwU

 

[Rick Ward]

I piggin hate that advert and refuse to buy the product as a result!!
 

[Dave Willis]

Rather poor technique in that video too. Anyway as I was saying ....... have you altered the inlet?

[Scoop]

I am surprised at some of the harsh comments Nick has had. He is trying to demonstate his system working on a badly blocked gutter and he never implied that he hadn't put the rubbish in there himself - it's fairly obvious. What his system does show is it's ability to remove large lumps of earth, moss and weeds quickly and effectively. As he says, if this was a compacted gutter the rigidity of the pole would be enough to loosen it before the vac picked it up.

Sludge in the tubes is indeed a problem with any guttervac but as Nick says if you pull a bucket of clean water through then you're back with a clean pole - it takes 2 minutes. As for the job with the hacksaw - I'd have given them their money back.

Nick has been at the forefront of trying to bring ladderless gutter cleaning into the modern age for quite some time, along with several other good systems. His systems are very modestly priced and I would defy anyone not to at least double their money within 1-2 months of buying one.

Before you ask, no I don't use Nick's system and I don't know Nick. I contacted him before I bought my system and in the end I went for a more powerful vac which I now believe wasn't necessary (although it does a good job). When I do buy another system it will be one of Nick's just for the unbeatable value for money.

The point is that there is a genuine need for this service which is going to grow as more people start doing it. As I said on a different thread now that most of the WC's are using WFP the gutters aren't getting cleaned anymore. I regularly come across houses that haven't been done for over 10 years. Everyone spends £200+ servicing their car each year but they are neglecting an equally vital job on their house which is worth far more than the car.

At the end of the day gutter cleaning as a service is going to grow all over the UK. At the moment very few people know about it and an entry level opportunity is being offered to existing window and other cleaners to get in on the action. It's hard but interesting work (every house is different) and good money. In my opinion it's a no-brainer for a WC with an established round. Just contact all your existing customers and you've got £2k plus of work straight away. But as long as some people keep poo-pooing the idea and nit-picking over what vac can pick up what clump of moss then a new group of people will move into gutter cleaning and they'll take the market.

Ladderless gutter cleaning is the future of gutter cleaning and I applaud Nick for his efforts in bringing his sound and well-tested system to market and for offering so many the chance to make a decent extra income for less than the price of a fortnight's grocery shopping.

 

[neil kellett]

They are a good bit of kit and could be used in conjunction with a proper 3 section ladder (with stand off and stabilizer) . If a gutter has not been done in ten years its gonna take more than a glorified telescope to sort it out. I do windows WFP, but on the initial cleans I still need to give them a good trad clean, to get the spiders nests, corners, algae from the frames, cills deep cleaned and what have you. Over here its all whites. Upvc city. I clean and polish gutters to completely rejuvenate them. Facia, soffit and down pipe.
I would like a gutter vac but only If I was gonna get the whole lot, i.e the Genny, the extendable p/w lance, the camera, the Big R2D2 thing. The climate now is not maintenance cleans on gutters. Its leave it till the very last ( or else give concessions to the next person who moves in for your neglect) . Gutter vacs would be a no go. I know they suck but do they polish too :? The point? Gutter vacs for maintenance, Ladders for initials. Plain and simple. And no scare mongering on the 2005 hswa working at height regs please.
Gutter cleaning. "Its money for old rope!"

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I think the video is obviously staged, but then let's face it most videos are staged aren't they. The products look impressive and if they perform half as well as they look to then they are impressive.

I guess the discrepancy is that Nick is highlighting the importance of H&S and not using ladders but how did the debri get in the gutters in the first place, I don't see a cherry picker in the picture. Better to highlight the speed of use which is what window cleaners would be far more interested in.

People don't want to buy something because they are being forced to, they are more likely to buy something because it will work to their advantage. Gutters are a brilliant business add on and I think these systems would be brilliant over 90% of the time.

Simon.

[Lee Pryor]

Nicks line about juan sheet is possibly the funniest I have ever heard on this forum! I love it! lol

Give nick a break its a good video - a decent vac works well. we have had several over the last 4 years and they do work.

[steve123]

i have just had a look at Nick's website and all can say is good luck to the bloke.

Its obviosly someone having a go and making a good tool at a realistic price.

Gutters is something i have always avoided as I hate doing them but I think with something like this i might give it a go.

How much is the going rate to charge? i assume its done per meter?

At a guess I was thinking £1 a meter for bungalows and low level stuff and £1.50 for high level stuff? would I be about right?

[Nick Day]

Hello,

 Depends on where abouts you are, the average is about £3-£3.50 per metre for high level work and £2.50-£3 per metre for bungalows. 

[Dave Willis]

Am I invisible 

[steve123]

Hello,

 Depends on where abouts you are, the average is about £3-£3.50 per metre for high level work and £2.50-£3 per metre for bungalows. 

Thanks Nick,

Does that price include cleaning the outside of the gutter and the facia and soffit too?

[lee09]

Am I invisible 

Who said that?