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Wc Solutions

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2011, 07:54:54 pm »

Wc Solutions

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2011, 08:01:13 pm »
i have just had a look at Nick's website and all can say is good luck to the bloke.

Its obviosly someone having a go and making a good tool at a realistic price.

Gutters is something i have always avoided as I hate doing them but I think with something like this i might give it a go.

How much is the going rate to charge? i assume its done per meter?

At a guess I was thinking £1 a meter for bungalows and low level stuff and £1.50 for high level stuff? would I be about right?

to be fair to them, i think they are doing very well.

very disappointing on some of the posts (not this one!)

gutter vacs are very pricey as a norm but these arent too bad in price.

very nice people to talk to etc...

of course the vid is some what staged!! its a bloody ad!

they are bringing out a new machine soon, with a much better spec and a good price!

Nick Day

Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2011, 08:33:21 pm »
Hello,

 That price is just for emptying the gutter. Hydrophyl, not quite sure what you mean by changing the inlet? We just use the standard machine (we've gone through about 20 different machines) and adapt our cuff to fit the hole. Most machines have a 51mm entry point on the machine. With regards to your 38mm hose you might be better to use a 51mm piece of hose going into the actual machine (assuming the hole is approx 51mm) and then use a 51 to 38mm reducer (you can get them from AXO Clean Machines, Europart or Woodbridge International). Hope that helps.

Wc Solutions

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2011, 08:44:51 pm »
Hello,

 That price is just for emptying the gutter. Hydrophyl, not quite sure what you mean by changing the inlet? We just use the standard machine (we've gone through about 20 different machines) and adapt our cuff to fit the hole. Most machines have a 51mm entry point on the machine. With regards to your 38mm hose you might be better to use a 51mm piece of hose going into the actual machine (assuming the hole is approx 51mm) and then use a 51 to 38mm reducer (you can get them from AXO Clean Machines, Europart or Woodbridge International). Hope that helps.

i have pm you mate

boshravie

Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2011, 09:28:17 pm »
I am surprised at some of the harsh comments Nick has had. He is trying to demonstate his system working on a badly blocked gutter and he never implied that he hadn't put the rubbish in there himself - it's fairly obvious. What his system does show is it's ability to remove large lumps of earth, moss and weeds quickly and effectively. As he says, if this was a compacted gutter the rigidity of the pole would be enough to loosen it before the vac picked it up.

Sludge in the tubes is indeed a problem with any guttervac but as Nick says if you pull a bucket of clean water through then you're back with a clean pole - it takes 2 minutes. As for the job with the hacksaw - I'd have given them their money back.

Nick has been at the forefront of trying to bring ladderless gutter cleaning into the modern age for quite some time, along with several other good systems. His systems are very modestly priced and I would defy anyone not to at least double their money within 1-2 months of buying one.

Before you ask, no I don't use Nick's system and I don't know Nick. I contacted him before I bought my system and in the end I went for a more powerful vac which I now believe wasn't necessary (although it does a good job). When I do buy another system it will be one of Nick's just for the unbeatable value for money.

The point is that there is a genuine need for this service which is going to grow as more people start doing it. As I said on a different thread now that most of the WC's are using WFP the gutters aren't getting cleaned anymore. I regularly come across houses that haven't been done for over 10 years. Everyone spends £200+ servicing their car each year but they are neglecting an equally vital job on their house which is worth far more than the car.

At the end of the day gutter cleaning as a service is going to grow all over the UK. At the moment very few people know about it and an entry level opportunity is being offered to existing window and other cleaners to get in on the action. It's hard but interesting work (every house is different) and good money. In my opinion it's a no-brainer for a WC with an established round. Just contact all your existing customers and you've got £2k plus of work straight away. But as long as some people keep poo-pooing the idea and nit-picking over what vac can pick up what clump of moss then a new group of people will move into gutter cleaning and they'll take the market.

Ladderless gutter cleaning is the future of gutter cleaning and I applaud Nick for his efforts in bringing his sound and well-tested system to market and for offering so many the chance to make a decent extra income for less than the price of a fortnight's grocery shopping.

 

‎I will second that.  :)

Smudger

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2011, 10:57:10 pm »
Hello,

 We've had many people ask us whether the 1400 watt vacs will handle weeds, mud and moss in the gutters. So we've done a video showing the 1400 watt vac clearing a gutter full of weeds, mud and moss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZBxLHC9YoU


Sorry but gutters are just not filled like this - carefully laid out and not compacted into the gutter - any vac could suck up loose stuff like that and it could have been done on the ground.

i have nothing against Nick or any other company selling gutter vacs - and the cheaper the better - but i'd like a bit of realism and straight talking about it  rather than rubbishing all other products other than their own - if a 1400 watt was the be all end all why are there more powerful ones available ?

i just don't want to see hard working windy's spends a few hundred on kit , only to find it does not meet their needs.


local to you yes....

compeditor no....    but thanks for the compliment !

as others could tell you - i'm more than happy to help out fellow w/cs with equipment, time, staff etc...

the world is a tough enough place without having to screw up your fellow w/c's.


Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

mikecam

Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2011, 10:59:17 pm »
I've bought one of these gutter vacs from Nick, the 30 litre one. Done our own properties with it and just a couple of jobs so far. Have had no problems with it, well one and i'll get back to that !!. I was sceptical that any of these vacs could indeed empty out a gutter properley. They can. They're probably better than doing it by hand, they remove even the silt, sand etc that only getting a hosepipe  up to the gutter would remove.
 The problem i had was i broke the mirror !! And the mirror does work suprisingly well, when its not cracked !!

Smudger

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2011, 08:00:54 am »
Hi Mike - yep gutter vacs are superb and have always found them to clean out a gutter better
than any hand job  :-*

and at least Nicks vac's incorperate solid ali tubing - which i feel is a must, so in that respect it's a better
system than some of it's rivals...


Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

windiewasher

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2011, 08:17:22 am »
Better of making one like the guy did with the also one over weekend.looks better than these tbh.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

everlast

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Re: Gutter Cleaning Video
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2011, 03:05:37 pm »
looks like the debris had been loosend before hand