[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

It's an extraction machine - it squirts and sucks !

Anyone would think the wheel had just been invented  :

[richy27]

makes me chukle all the big words all the companys use     bi bore, ultra tech, makes me wonder that most companies aim there marketting at the new bys as in this climate there seems to be a lot starting off and its attracts them. as steve says not re inventing the wheel squirts sucks in a diff package sure to be improvements.

when i was younger feeling old today i was attracted by fancy marketting flashing lights like spearmint rhino like most entered there too with notes in my pocket and and ended up with dissapointment and an empty wallet   so i grew up bought a tm and got married and have a few more quid now

[Colin Day]

Happy Birthday Rich... If you're talking the way your typing, your pretty sozzled mate....

[richy27]

rick steins was pretty good mate

[Colin Day]

I've only ever had fish and chips from his plaice... Did you see what I did there...?

[richy27]

never been to padstow before went to his seafood restaurant and was very nice  3 course lunch menu £37 good value for the quality . why what you do colin cleaned his ovens by any chance

[clarkson]

  www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hydramaster-Spitfire-Truckmount-Carpet-Cleaning-Machine-    /140570826813#ht_886wt_1141

 Hi

 Thanks for that but wouldnt i have to buy a dedicated van for that. with a porty i can use one of the window cleaning vans as we do now.

  cheers

 john

[Colin Day]

never been to padstow before went to his seafood restaurant and was very nice  3 course lunch menu £37 good value for the quality . why what you do colin cleaned his ovens by any chance

No, we happened to be in Cornwall on Holiday about in 2002 or 3 and went to Rick Stein's Chippy the night it opened.
They opened one in Falmouth last year and I went. I sent an email complaining about the poor service I got in there, but still haven't heard from Rick

The Fish and Chips are good though...

When I was there they were not open

[Colin Day]

Well at least your getting specific now ...
But can you at least post a link to data supporting your theory ...
Or link to a discussion where the point you make is discussed ..

If not ... it sound like the same ol vagueness ....

Are you a carpet cleaner, John

[Joe H]

It would appear that the Jaguar is now in the hands of a few new owners (as Colin has already said) and I would think more are being sent out soon.
Initial reports are coming back from these users - experienced cleaners, not newbies, who are respected carpet cleaners, who, mostly, choose not to post on here.
These initial reports suggest it is a very good machine.
No doubt as time goes on more feedback will come through.

[happy mondays]

John,
however i do think if you have a porty you can do anything.
I think the complete opposite is the case. A TM allows you to do almost any job and any size of job quickly and efficiently and that is where you get the return on your investment, which by-the-way is peanuts in comparison to a TM's ability to earn money.

Happy Mondays,
Do you have a name?
Most TM'ers own a porty and would use it in the situation you describe. On the other hand there are a thousand other scenarios where the TM will out perform, out clean and out earn any portable system. In marketing terms it helps you to stand out of the crowd and that in itself is worth a good few grand a year and let's you dominate the market in your area, if you know what you're doing that is.

Simon

Hi Guys

It's pretty obvious from the a couple of posts that people have no concept of the difference between a TM and a porty.

I would seriously suggest that those using a porty ask for on the job demo from a TM CC, it is very different.

I was a porty user  for over 20 years and had the same negative ideas.

Cheers

Doug

p.s
If anyone local wants to come out with me I would be more than happy to oblige.

Of course they are different, no one is saying they are as powerful. like I said doug its just like with lawnmowers, but cleaning isnt like mowing lawns.

Domination of market share in your area isnt down to a truck mount.

A smart appearance, being polite to customers and a nice modern sign written van should be at the top of anyones list to suceed.

Simple fact is a portable is far more versatile than a tm, even if I had one I would still need my ultra reliable extracta exel and a rotary for jobs like I mentioned earlier.

[Simon Gerrard]

Domination of market share in your area isn't down to a truck mount.
Then I would respectfully suggest that you don't know anything about dominating a market. A truck mount is as much a fantastic marketing tool as it it is a fabulous piece of kit. We get phone call after phone call, 'Are you the ones with the big machine in the van?' Rightly or wrongly, customers see a nice shiny machine in your van and your credibility shoots up before you've even done anything. And, that usually provokes all the stories like, 'Crikey, the last guy turned up with a little machine and ...'
Credibility is a huge thing in this business - huge! And standing not with  - but out of the crowd, with something totally different to everyone else gives you a unique selling point and something for your customers to remember you by, 'are you the guy's with the big machine in the van?'
TM's are worth thousands just in the credibility stakes. That said, you can do just as good a job with a portable, it will just take you a lot longer. 

Simple fact is a portable is far more versatile than a tm,  

Simon

[Ian Gourlay]

If you had Martin Rileys stuff you would know you can do well with a portable,although he did end his CC carrer with a Truckmount

[Colin Day]

Like Joe said "Initial reports are coming back from these users - experienced cleaners, not newbies, who are respected carpet cleaners, who, mostly, choose not to post on here.
These initial reports suggest it is a very good machine."

These respected and very successful people use a porty, so a TM isn't necessarily "THE" gateway to a successful carpet cleaning business. 

[D Ingram]

Colin you’re quite right the skill is in the hands of the user and as your say it’s the first impression the client has when meeting you no matter what machinery you run.
The secret to success in any business is the marketing and any recommends that come from the service you have provided is down to the skills you posses.
Having started my business both in Newbury Berks and again in Wolverhampton having a truckmount did not make a blind bit of difference !

It’s MARKETING that got the phone to ring all the truckmount did was make the work easer. Saying this I do pad a lot more carpets now than I ever did, but that’s another story.

The only time size matters is in the porn industry and all the big guy's get the work

[Joe H]

I have gone from a truckmount back to a portable as my main machine and can defiantly say I have not lost jobs because I no longer have a truckmount.

[Simon Gerrard]

Joe,

I thought you'd retired. Is your back better now?

Simon

[Joe H]

I was'nt retiring at all.
Just slowing down a bit because of the trapped nerve in the back (that was'nt affecting the back) causing pain in left arm.
Its settled down a lot now, just odd twinges.

but retained my old customers and still get referrals, despite using a porty.

[Simon Gerrard]

Dave is right in much of what he says, but I disagree that the TM doesn't get the phone ringing, it most certainly does. The majority of new customers, or should I say the ones that comment, say they chose us because of the TM, but there again we do push the TM aspect a lot in our market, others don't.

Simon

[derek west]

i get 1 or 2 a month insisting they only want a truckmount cleaner, so i wouldn't say a truckmount gets customers, exploiting the fact you have a truckmount gets customers. but thats no different to exploiting your bonnet method leaves carpets dryer of dry granules means no disruption etc... you exploit your own USP to your advantage.