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LTT Leathercare

  • Posts: 886
Re: Leather
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2011, 01:00:38 pm »
In this sort of comparison you also have to take into account the amount of product that is used on the job.
If this is considerably less with a professional rather than a DIY product then the cost of the job is usually comparable. 
The tests that were done the other week (independently by a company looking for product supply) found that the BRIT system used about a third of the product used by most other products.
We work with many professionals conducting work throughout the world so have constant feedback from them about products and their use.

There are far larger companies than the likes of ourselves, Buffalo of Furniture Clinic out there and always have been.
http://www.lttleathercare.co.uk
Leather Consultant to the Furniture and Cleaning Industry
Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
AMU
IICRC (LCT)
NCCA
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Steve Gunn

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Re: Leather
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2011, 04:10:23 pm »
i seem to have a habit of creating chaos!

think in summary this is cost v quality issue....and personal preference on products of course..

If a product out there does the job(and does it well) and is more cost effective...and is backed up by good service too then it's a no brainer really....you then have 2 options   maximise your profit  or pass this onto the cutomer in an efficiency saving....

Company 1 = £49.59   1ltr pigment colour
Company 2 = £21.99   1ltr pigmnet colour

Guys on here saying both work equally well and do a good job , no complaints etc etc... so are people suggesting the more expensive one is twice as good as the less expensive.....not according to this forum by professionals conducting the work...... not the professionals selling their products...

maybe a while ago some thought they had the monopoly.....maybe not so now but still feel they can live off that past and continue to charge lots...

when you see that you can understand why there is an issue....

but then again what do i know ???

Hit the nail on the head!!

The same as Furniture Clinic lost interest in the carpet cleaners using their products to concentrate on his franchise selling and the consumer after care market

Paul H

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Re: Leather
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 04:20:47 pm »
So are you saying i need 3 litres of 21.99 product to 1 litre of the britt?.....not so sure from the reports on here.....even twice as much 21.99 stuff is still a saving by my sums....

are you saying the cheap stuff is primarni and britt is Armani?

Re: Leather
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 08:40:54 pm »
Paul, they are all the same at the end of the day. They can come up with all the marketing blurb about dyes and pigments,etc etc but in realitynone of them are dyes they are all PAINTS and are not by law allowed to call them dyes so thats where the blurb comes in and they call then a different name like BRITT  ;D for example.

Its similar to carpet cleaning chemicals called Micro Splitters ;D What is a micro splitter?

On leather ive used Buffalo for years done training with them and they are great and their product work well for the professional, ive done loads of recolouring and never had a problem.

Oh they have just bought out a great cleaning sponge and it makes light work of cleaning  a really dirty suite.
Have you caused a storm. No not really. Having spent an hour reading through back pages of Judys posts I think she is the main antagonist when any thing is posted regading leather.

LTT Leathercare

  • Posts: 886
Re: Leather
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 09:24:52 pm »
A dye is a dye and a pigment is a paint.. -. no confusion there. Nothing to do with what we are allowed to call anything.  BRIT is a paint that sits on the surface of the leather, ..... dyes are designed to soak into the leather - two entirely different things for two entirely different jobs.
Not all pigments are the same they vary wildly which is why some last and others don't.
BRIT is the name of the system we use that distinguishes it from others on the market.
All my posts are designed to help people but it is clear that some people just don't want to be helped.

Hope this helps  ;D
http://www.lttleathercare.co.uk
Leather Consultant to the Furniture and Cleaning Industry
Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
AMU
IICRC (LCT)
NCCA
SLTC

Paul H

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Re: Leather
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2011, 01:26:37 pm »
in amongst all the slava buffalo appears to be clearly the preferred choice then.... based on quality , cost and service...

thanks

Roger Koh

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Re: Leather
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2011, 08:33:27 pm »
Cost and Service is easier to base our judgments on.

But how do you judge on Quality?

Roger Koh
info@leatherdoctor.com

Paul H

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Re: Leather
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2011, 09:05:21 pm »
By using the product and seeing the results........as many have done in this post....with little or no complaints..

Roger Koh

  • Posts: 374
Re: Leather
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2011, 10:34:38 pm »
By looking at a black leather sofa...

How would we know if it's:

1. Aniline

2. Semi-Aniline

or

3. Pigmented

4. Assuming we rule out the Napa Pigment, the common pigment black jacket that is as absorbent as aniline leathers.


Therefore, do we have the different quality of products to match to retain their original value?


Roger Koh
info@leatherdoctor.com

Paul H

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Re: Leather
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2011, 09:17:01 am »
not sure on your id roger.... but we use our identification process to identify and categorise the type of leather

I wouldn't be asking about britt / pigment re colour if it was an aniline type