[Paul H]

ok chaps?

straight forward pigment re colour after a bit degreasing.

By far my biggest job on leather to date ..

Just after some advice on who buys there stuff from where.....recogn i need about 2 litres matt black..

have used ltt brit colour on small work in the past....rang buffalo yesterday....impressed with their price.....has anyone used their stuff?...

also curious re others costing too(after materials)....phase 1 = 2 x small 2 seater     2 x larger 2 seater (not 3 seater size)   2 x medium size foot stools.. phase 2 (depending on outcome of phase 1)  1 x large 3 seater and 2 x arm chairs...

i wont bore you with the reason re the phases.......his n hers lounge rooms!

Thanks
Paul

[Steve Gunn]

Use Buffalo as main supplier now for leather products,wouldn't get much change out of £1000

[Steve Gunn]

Charged £700 for 1 chair and 2 x 2 seaters

[Steve Gunn]

The finished article,got 3 suites in unit at the moment 2 full colour changes and one colour repair sick of the site of them

[Paul H]

Top man appreciate the response..

feel free to send a suite my way...

Think i'll try buffalo..... ive tested one cushion with LTT brit colour  which on showing the customer has secured me the work....would you suggest or recommend continuing with same i.e britt?....

cost wise i aint a million miles away.....so happy with my cut for the work involved...

thanks
paul

[Steve Gunn]

It's all about your costs cheaper to you more profit

[LTT Leathercare]

I think you'll find that Buffalo are geared for the DIY market rather than the professional restoration market.  Give us a ring if we can help.

Cheers
Judyb

[davep]

Thats not true, they have a trade price list on request.

[Steve Gunn]

Dave is correct they also have a page which directs customers to your area if you wish to go on it (under repairs in your county)

http://www.buffaloleather.co.uk/trade-pages.htm

[LTT Leathercare]

I realise that as I know the products they supply very well but the products they sell are all the same whether to the trade or consumer so therefore the products are geared to the DIY market.

[davep]

That's a bit conusing. I've ordered colours off them at a good price and they worked well 

[Paul H]

Dave is correct they also have a page which directs customers to your area if you wish to go on it (under repairs in your county)

http://www.buffaloleather.co.uk/trade-pages.htm

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[Paul H]

 you get many referrals from this service ?

[Steve Gunn]

It's only been live a couple of weeks,their products are on all my websites

Judy I don't know why you feel the need to undermine your competition in the way you always do with every supplier mentioned on here you did the same with Furniture Clinic,you don't see Restormate on here undermining Solutions on here its just not done.At the end of the day we are cleaners and don't need suppliers undermining other suppliers we can all make our own mind up.

[LTT Leathercare]

Just trying to help thats all. There is a big difference in the products that are out there for for leather restoration and it is important that you have the correct information.
I am not trying to undermine anyone - Jackie was one of our star pupils when we trained her.

Cheers
Judy

[Anthony Rowan]

Just trying to help thats all. There is a big difference in the products that are out there for for leather restoration and it is important that you have the correct information.
I am not trying to undermine anyone - Jackie was one of our star pupils when we trained her.

Cheers
Judy

They all use similar suppliers and all products are more or less the same. Its only the marketing blurb that different. A bit like Chempec saying its product are better than Prochems.

Ive been using Buffalo  for about 3 years now, Jackie did not do any training with LTT rather Andy went down to Buffalo to give them a days training advice but they found that they they where not doing any thing new or different from LTT.

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[LTT Leathercare]

Products vary enourmously in leather restoration depending on the producer as we have found when we have tested them.  A few weeks ago on a corporate course some technicians came to us and used our facilities to test many of the products on the market and they could not believe the difference that there was between them which is why I try to help.

  Strange about the training idea as we have spent some time with Jackie here also as we have with the supplier of her products.  Ah well each to their own I suppose.

[Ian Gourlay]

Hi Judy

I know nothing about Leather Restoration and probably missing a big market but as I do not have workshop etc I have stayed  clear as I do not want to do it in customers home.
  But the other day I was watching Wheeler dealers and they bought in a Leather Person to restore the Leather on a roller.

All seats were out of car

He appeared to do the job using sponges

Which to me seems easier than spraying

 the charge for job was £200

[LTT Leathercare]

Hi Ian

The car market is a huge one and we are training a lot of detailers at the moment as car interiors are becoming predominantly leather and due to the use they get the repair market is very big.

If the seats come out it is much easier but most of the time the repairs have to be done insitu because of airbags, electrics etc.  Using a sponge or a roller application (as we teach) is a much better way of applying product as it creates a better adhesion with the leather which you don't get simply from spraying. Many of the products on the market cannot be applied very well in this way so have to be sprayed which limits their use.   Also in a car environment overspray from an airbrush would be a major issue as it would require a huge amount of masking off so the roller application is much better for this type of work.

Good money to be had from the leather market both domestic and auto.

Cheers
Judy

[Paul H]

i seem to have a habit of creating chaos!

think in summary this is cost v quality issue....and personal preference on products of course..

If a product out there does the job(and does it well) and is more cost effective...and is backed up by good service too then it's a no brainer really....you then have 2 options   maximise your profit  or pass this onto the cutomer in an efficiency saving....

Company 1 = £49.59   1ltr pigment colour
Company 2 = £21.99   1ltr pigmnet colour

Guys on here saying both work equally well and do a good job , no complaints etc etc... so are people suggesting the more expensive one is twice as good as the less expensive.....not according to this forum by professionals conducting the work...... not the professionals selling their products...

maybe a while ago some thought they had the monopoly.....maybe not so now but still feel they can live off that past and continue to charge lots...

when you see that you can understand why there is an issue....

but then again what do i know