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dazmond

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Re: when to employ
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2011, 08:37:25 am »
so how have you tripled your monthly income in just a few months?sounds like theres a bit of porky pies being told!!

get honest woody!!do you have round software like george/roundtracker so you can "see" your round at the touch of a button?thats helped me a lot.

i have put  my prices up 2 years in a row and  i gave some an ultimatum an extra £5 or im going to have to stop cleaning for them.lost only a couple of jobs.

i suffered for years with not putting my prices up.i was trad at the time and didnt really have much confidence in myself to do it.to some extent i still have some very compact cheaper work but with wfp and van mount i can still earn good money.

WFP has totally changed things plus sign written van,uniform etc.my attitude is better and new work is much better priced.its amazing how much work ive picked up just by being more professional.

my earnings have increased considerably over the last 2 years and all without the hassle of employing.i reckon my round is just going to get better and better again over the next few years.

best wishes


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

woody1

Re: when to employ
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2011, 01:44:35 pm »
well i will tell you i bought some work of a windy and have canvassed like a mad mad nearly every nigh and on weekends and i picked up a big block of flats to be honest so no no porkies and yes i use george,

anderclean

  • Posts: 316
Re: when to employ
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2011, 01:59:43 pm »
good for you woody
keep going...

woody1

Re: when to employ
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2011, 03:22:27 pm »
its good to be busy i get my neighbour out to help on odd days as i am still getting new custy's every other day ring up so i price high now £ 16 for a 3 bed semi £20 with cony i have not had many say no so cant be bad  ;D

mgba_78

  • Posts: 437
Re: when to employ
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2011, 01:49:50 pm »
Personal experience here...

You need to employ when you are way behind with QUALITY work.
We have even tried overpricing jobs to not get them and guess what we still get um!!  17 new customer so far in September!

No point employing if you have stacked up a load of £100 days as most of that money goes on paying employee, insurance, NI etc etc

As stated by someone above, you need to get a decent round first just for you/1 person. So put any prices up that need going up, get rid of very bad payers (cash flow is key when employing)
Nothing like getting to Friday and only having £300  in you cash box?!

Then dont wait for the phone to ring either buy additional work or door knock, advertise and let people know you can take customers on, 90% of people we speak to say "ive been looking for a window cleaner for ages!

We have employed at various stages over the years (even tried another partner in the company, whole different subject!) never permanent employees and will be looking to this again next year as we now are at the limits of what we can achieve in a month! We know this as 6 day working weeks have happened to just try and keep up, or if rain affects play we are prepared to work Saturdays!





Oooooo that is shiny!!

woody1

Re: when to employ
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2011, 02:25:40 pm »
well just to tell you i have no bad custy's as dumped as i went along and as for dazmond saying i am lying what a joke you been doing this for 18 years mate and still have crap prices by the sounds of your post. so maybe sort your round out before giving people stick.

geefree

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Re: when to employ
« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2011, 08:39:11 pm »
I think dazmond had a point, but it came across as a little harsh,

But to pick up on his point,  you have trebled your income in a few weeks,  which is a very very lot of hard canvassing, whilst its not totally impossible, its a little hard to achieve.

did you possibly buy the work?

STEVE-UK

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Re: when to employ
« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2011, 08:46:02 pm »
We have 6 window cleaners now, it's a big decision as to when to bite the bullet and employ, personnally I think the key is when you start falling behind with work. 

If you fall behind then you have lost that money, you can't go and clean a house twice to catch up.  Take someone on on a trial basis, either pay them wholly on what they do or pay them a basic plus a percentage of work done.

My guys are on a basic plus a 3 monthly bonus.  Two guys working together will generally be able to do more than two guys working on their own, teams of three don't work.

are you still franchising as well ian?

dazmond

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Re: when to employ
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2011, 06:30:55 am »
woody you sound like a dreamer mate.WAKE UP!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

Re: when to employ
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2011, 06:47:17 am »
We have 6 window cleaners now, it's a big decision as to when to bite the bullet and employ, personnally I think the key is when you start falling behind with work. 

If you fall behind then you have lost that money, you can't go and clean a house twice to catch up.  Take someone on on a trial basis, either pay them wholly on what they do or pay them a basic plus a percentage of work done.

My guys are on a basic plus a 3 monthly bonus.  Two guys working together will generally be able to do more than two guys working on their own, teams of three don't work.

are you still franchising as well ian?

You have got the wrong Ian mate...Ian Lancaster is probably who you were thinking about....

AuRavelling79

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Re: when to employ
« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2011, 07:27:35 am »
Gazza - woody said:



well i will tell you i bought some work of a windy and have canvassed like a mad mad nearly every nigh and on weekends and i picked up a big block of flats to be honest so no no porkies and yes i use george,

It's a game of three halves!

woody1

Re: when to employ
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2011, 08:42:15 am »
thats right gold thanks mate i bought some picked up a good value block of flats and been canvassing my nuts of and dazmond yes i do dream about having a big business mate. i think you like knocking people as it makes your little existance feel much better. sorry must go got 4 new quote to do, have fun painting mate  ;D

Pope vader

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Re: when to employ
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2011, 08:56:29 am »
if you put the hours in knocking its isnt that hard or take that long to build a good business,

bobby p

Re: when to employ New
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2011, 08:59:13 am »
ive had 2 cannabis users on board in as many months , i now wont employ anybody who smokes - thats another tip i can give   and i now see can buy dope testing kits online for under a tenner (worth bearing in mind)