[Pope vader]

no one will work as hard as you, as it isnt there business and they dont care, all they want is a wage at the end of the week

[bobby p]

ive a new lad starting next week,still keeping my other lad on. both p/timers.

 i had a word with original and laid down the law ,main thing now is to check and double check each window is my new rule-then theres no excuse is there

[ronnie paton]

gav goldstar turned up 20 min late for a work trial and then has i was waiting next door in the cafe he thought i was getting breakfast in.

i leave at certain times to avoid traffic and maximise my days and when some one comes on a work trial late with this attitude its not for me.


[/quoter  Ronnie , i beg to differ , as you know at the time i was banned from driving so was getting the first bus in Hyde , you said meet at quater-two to ten-two , i ran from the station to your place to see your van parked outside the cafe , so i waited outside thinking you would be out any minute , still no sign , so i went in the cafe , introduced myself , then to be totally blanked while you carried on reading your paper , got in the van to be told if i wanted to impress you i should have been earlier , you would have found me to be a nice guy , hard working , honest and reliable . A FAIR DAYS WORK FOR A FAIR DAYS PAY . Dont think we started on the right foot , pity as you always seem to be crying out for good window cleaners

i beg to differ to....

its good practise to call if your late which you was.

if it was me going for a work trial and they said leaving at quarter to i would be there maybe 25 2,good impressions and all that.

and that is what i said in the van, now if i ignored you like you say how did you get a brew???

[Small but perfectley formed]

Carry out  random spot checks and work the occasional day with them , keeps them on there toes also you could offer and quality bonus subject to no complaints and your inspections.

[GS CLEANING SERVICES UK]

The problem with things like missing windows is either pure laziness or the windy as got his head up his arse trying to fit all the work in that his boss as told him to do for that day . I worked for a contract cleaning firm some years ago doing all Wigan council jobs as well as a massive school in Birmingham as well as other businesses in and around Manchester , they gave me a lad around 5 years younger than me but turned out to be on weed through the day and smack at night , so i ended up doing all this myself , but alwats got round it ( just about ) and i can say honestly NEVER MISSED A WINDOW . Was promised a nice healthy bonus at end of each month which i got 3 out of 6 months . My loyalty was still there even though i would have to fight for my wages in the end . I loved the work and the challenge of doing the work cleaned on time every month but what are you supposed to do when you have to mither the boss , just to get your wage

[Johnny B]

I used to have a lad with me, but in the end it wasn't worth all the headache that went with it.

Like you Ronnie, I set my self high standards and reach them as they are always achievable, but the sad fact seems to be nowadays that the work ethic of many is simply not there.

My lad was taking the mick with time off work due to illness (fit enough to go to the gym for 3 hours a day though), then spending the day on his Xbox, texting while I was grafting, slowing down in the afternoons when he knew he had earned enough. The list goes on.  

I warned him that if necessary, I would have to be ruthless, as I was not going to allow my business to be jeopardized in any way by anyone. I am seen as a soft touch, and he clearly thought I would not follow through with it.  

I finally let him go, then sold my excess work, and now have a more compact, more efficient
and manageable business to care for me and my family.

Happy days again.

John.

[GS CLEANING SERVICES UK]

At the end of the day Ronnie i got the first bus out ..........i think you should have been a bit more civil , looked at my work , then say LOOK I THINK YOUR WERE LATE THIS MORNING ( WHICH I WASNT ) PLUS YOUR WORK IS poo ..........so i dont want you working for me

I am 40-years old , been working on windows since i was 16 ( on and off ) had my own round , worked for a contract company , i may be wrong but i dont feel i have to impress anyone but the custard .
BUT if anyone thinks im wrong please do tell me

[H S and Son]

So far as you (the employee) is concerned Ronnie IS the custard.

I dont agree with Ronnie all the time, and from what you are saying and from what he has said time-keeping and attitude are the two things YOU can do something about on a trial, then it is your attitude that needs to change.

[Lee Burbidge]

i have had a run of bad times a couple of years ago when I was recruiting a new window cleaner. I got some time waisters.
I wasnt interested in those that had their own business before and I wasnt impressed by the people who said they could wc because they saw some dude do it in the street.

This one guy I did take on at that time, turned out to be brillent. So good I was asking myself 'whats tha catch?'
He had done some R&W with another company (up to 2 years experince).

I remember him dropping one of my poles and smashing the end piece (costs £80 to replace) but so that it didnt put him off (he had only been working a couple of days) I told him accidents happening and that he shouldnt worry about the cost of it ( I would replace it) so then I am working with him for another week and it dawns on me what the catch was. He had a lot of issues, family etc. some weird stuff really.......
Then he started not turning up on time and becoming unrealible. Then one day he didnt even turn up, I called him and called him. Finally he starts to communicate through text. I tell him he has let me down, I had all this work lined up and booked in...... he tells me he aint coming back because he is in Birmingham now!!? I deducted the £80 out of his final pay.

I tend not to train or start from scratch as my time is very valuable  

[GS CLEANING SERVICES UK]

Maybe the answer to employees letting you down is to sub out your work ( under your name ) and have a contract with the subby saying if i dont get paid or if there is a complaint from a domestic or commercial custy then youdont get payed for that job . Then if the subby is NORMAL he will want to do a good job because he wants to get paid . it would work for me anyway , surely then everyone is happy

[ronnie paton]

goldstar we both have different opinions im not here to discuss that we could of had that convo at 710 the day you left your work trial.


but just for future reference when some one comes on a work trial it5 is show me they are the man/women for the job time keeping attiuse quality of work presentation of them selves are just a few things i try to look at.

Matt this must be a first lol

[ronnie paton]

Maybe the answer to employees letting you down is to sub out your work ( under your name ) and have a contract with the subby saying if i dont get paid or if there is a complaint from a domestic or commercial custy then youdont get payed for that job . Then if the subby is NORMAL he will want to do a good job because he wants to get paid . it would work for me anyway , surely then everyone is happy

My clients dont expect my work to be subbed out they like to know its someone representing my company has they know how keen i am has in most cases if sold my service to them.

i woudlnt consider this has the percentages would drop drastically and you could easily lose the control has some one else is in with your contact and knowing your prices

[GS CLEANING SERVICES UK]

Matt i get what your saying mate , but i will stand by what i said about being late , it is one of my pet-hates . it was just one of them things i guess ,

[GS CLEANING SERVICES UK]

yes i see your point  Ronnie but i meant the subbing would be between you and the subby BUT under your name..........so as far as the customer is concerned the windy works for you ( this is more for commercial work ) you say to the subby , i will give you x amount for that job , he dosnt need to know how much your getting for it .

[ronnie paton]

ye but he knows were abouts he is with price.

if i went down this route it would be a franchise it works better for me and there is a contract that covers both parties

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

gav goldstar turned up 20 min late for a work trial and then has i was waiting next door in the cafe he thought i was getting breakfast in.

i leave at certain times to avoid traffic and maximise my days and when some one comes on a work trial late with this attitude its not for me.

 i wudnt of been waiting no 20 mins
drives me insane wen i av to toot my horn
more than once  n i dont get any ones
brekkie only mine lol

[ronnie paton]

what is a fair percentage to pay an employee taking into consideration the real cost of running a vat reg business??

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

definatly depends on the employee m8
but i think 60/65 a day is plently for
most employee's 

[ronnie paton]

percent???

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

percent dont come into it m8
ryan giggs aint on a percent of
man utds gate reciept is he?
a half descent wage for driver wc is around
the 350 a wk top line m8