[dave0123]

went back to my supalite DT FLOCKED today.feels like a proper brush on my pole again!hardly knocked the sides of frames when cleaning.i am cleaning windows that are noticably dirtier than normal as im 3 weeks behind.

why was you nocking the frames with the extreme? i find its more controllable where you want it to go than the others

[ian1972]

Doe that mean it's 10 times the rip off than the Gardiners?

[SB Cleaning]

The DT flocked is a very light brush i dont see the need to go lighter.

[dazmond]

dave im probably just not used to it!!i much prefer the normal supalite flocked though as it feels more "beefy" when cleaning.the extreme is just a step too far in trying to make a brush lighter IMO.

i found it difficult to clean the sills without scraping the stock of the brush along it.maybe im just a bit heavy handed!

the extreme just seems a tad "anaemic" and little too small for everyday window cleaning.

[Dave Willis]

Alex, do you actually post anything useful?
Your sole purpose seems to be to knock Gardiners and praise Ariel with the emphasis on trying to destroy Gardiners. Why is that?
The last bloke who's mission was the same was Ewan. Another troll.

[Frankybadboy]

Alex, do you actually post anything useful?
Your sole purpose seems to be to knock Gardiners and praise Ariel with the emphasis on trying to destroy Gardiners. Why is that?
The last bloke who's mission was the same was Ewan. Another troll.

dave cause he in the same mould as Ewan.


only pop on to rubbish gardiners and big up the ariel.


help no one what so other.



any cause i aint fast i cant clean windows.a alex

[ian1972]

Well stick it on eBay dazmond or flog it on ere get some of ur money bk in fact if u decide u want rid of it let me no I will buy it am only down Rd from u I think

[mci services]

To be fair to Alex just because he doesn't agree with majority it doesn't make his opinion not count, why ask questions if you don't want answers?

[Frankybadboy]

Daz I've been unimpressed too, I think it cleans ok, but the quality of the brush is poor, and the bristle quality is poor, here is a picture if my brush after 7 days of work.


you can't expect any sympathy if you spent £20 on that
any experienced window cleaner will tell you
the bristle splay width is just as important or even more important as the length of the brush
removing nearly half the bristles just to make it light
and expecting it to clean as quick is daft

as far as i'm conceren the pictures says it all
lee if you do go back to the aerial brush
you need to use it properly
it took me a while to get use to it and im not new to wfp
you should be getting faster and faster and i do mean faster
you wont find a faster brush to use
you either can clean windows with it fast or you can't clean windows
its a proper piece of wfp kit
and that brush in the picture certainly isnt

i mearsured the aerial brush width of splay on the glas its almost 6" inches and stays that way in use
i did the same with the superlight double trim it barely manages 3"inches of splay before it goes out of shape
if you go back to using the extreme brush, good luck your going to need it
because your competiton wont be using that brush

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says it allreally stu,just another person troll who never helps anyone just goes of on one subject

[Lee GLS]

Alex's biased opinion of the aerial brush isnt doing tecbuk any favors .

my view isnt biased, i dont favour suppliers just equipment
by your own comment and pictures the brush is rubbish
then you have justify it because others have the brush
if you want an un biased opinion show that brush to anyone
start with family then friends then customers then anybody else you see
tell them what you paid for it, and watch the expresion on their face
if you leave the biased opinion of a few on the forum behind
you will get a better idea

the aerial  brush might be 2 x the price of the extreme brush
but its more than 10 x the value
in my own opinion

Alex i dont have to justify anything, i had a gardiners DT Mono, i didnt like it so i bought the aerial brush, which i really like, my brother needed a new brush and he went for the xtreme brush, so to get free postage i said i would have on too, for £20 its worth a go,  like i have said already on more than one occasion, there is nothing wrong with how the brush cleans, my problem was with how the brush was wearing after only a week of work.

Alex gardiners has been more than helpful i resolving the issue, I have been the only person on here that has had this problem, so that goes to show that there must be a problem with my brush, gardiners are sending me a replacement form the first batch they had made.

If there is a problem with this brush i will be posting on here my experience, but due to the reputation, the feedback and the after sales help that gardiners give, i am more than confident that the next brush will be fine.

You come on here saying how rubbish gardiners brushes are at cleaning, when 9 out of 10 people probably use them and say how good they are, and think everybody else is biased.

Also what would be the point of showing the brush to customers and friend? what they know about window cleaning, i could show them a bayersan pole and an slx, they would probably say the bayersan pole is better because its a fraction of the price.

You really need to start thinking about what you are saying, because everyone will think you are talking rubbish when one day you might actually have something helpful to say.

[mci services]

Alex's biased opinion of the aerial brush isnt doing tecbuk any favors .

my view isnt biased, i dont favour suppliers just equipment
by your own comment and pictures the brush is rubbish
then you have justify it because others have the brush
if you want an un biased opinion show that brush to anyone
start with family then friends then customers then anybody else you see
tell them what you paid for it, and watch the expresion on their face
if you leave the biased opinion of a few on the forum behind
you will get a better idea

the aerial  brush might be 2 x the price of the extreme brush
but its more than 10 x the value
in my own opinion

Alex i dont have to justify anything, i had a gardiners DT Mono, i didnt like it so i bought the aerial brush, which i really like, my brother needed a new brush and he went for the xtreme brush, so to get free postage i said i would have on too, for £20 its worth a go,  like i have said already on more than one occasion, there is nothing wrong with how the brush cleans, my problem was with how the brush was wearing after only a week of work.

Alex gardiners has been more than helpful i resolving the issue, I have been the only person on here that has had this problem, so that goes to show that there must be a problem with my brush, gardiners are sending me a replacement form the first batch they had made.

If there is a problem with this brush i will be posting on here my experience, but due to the reputation, the feedback and the after sales help that gardiners give, i am more than confident that the next brush will be fine.

You come on here saying how rubbish gardiners brushes are at cleaning, when 9 out of 10 people probably use them and say how good they are, and think everybody else is biased.

Also what would be the point of showing the brush to customers and friend? what they know about window cleaning, i could show them a bayersan pole and an slx, they would probably say the bayersan pole is better because its a fraction of the price.

You really need to start thinking about what you are saying, because everyone will think you are talking rubbish when one day you might actually have something helpful to say.

See that last sentence, that is what I mean, ok alex does a bit of gardiners bashing, and should really just stick to recommending what he likes without the bashing. but if you read some of his posts and ignore the bad bits he makes some very valid points on the brush he recommends.

I am a fan of viking mono ovals, and that arial brush looks very much the same to me except better due the extra splay and length of bristles, I might have to buy one in fact it covers most of the bases I look for in a brush. and I didn't even know about until this thread.

but I agree it would be better if alex didn't hijack threads to promote other suppliers, and it would be better if he did reviews or whatever on the things he likes and why, that would be more helpful to everyone.

But then again everyone slates brodex. and ironics and nobody gets upset at them, so If gardiners get a bit of stick isn't it just the same thing?

I like Gardiners by the way, I just haven''t tried any of their brushes so I can't comment on them.

peace all

[Lee GLS]

Stu, the aerial brush is a very good brush, i really like it, the bristles are softer than the gardiners mono and vikan mono brushes, it feels like the vikan flocked on the glass, but the bristles are longer and glides over the glass better, and being mono i can rinse on the glass.

I really do like it, but because alex, like you said hijacks other thread and knocks everything else saying how rubbish they are, i think it gets peoples backs up, and immediately puts people off because it seems like he has an agenda against gardiners, who as we know the majority of people love.
 
But if you are looking for a new mono brush that is lighter than the vikan brush then i would recommend the aeria brush.

[mci services]

thanks lee and I suppose I better thank alex for drawing my attention to it

[Lee GLS]

thanks lee and I suppose I better thank alex for drawing my attention to it

you have a point 

[Alex Allen]

Alex's biased opinion of the aerial brush isnt doing tecbuk any favors .

my view isnt biased, i dont favour suppliers just equipment
by your own comment and pictures the brush is rubbish
then you have justify it because others have the brush
if you want an un biased opinion show that brush to anyone
start with family then friends then customers then anybody else you see
tell them what you paid for it, and watch the expresion on their face
if you leave the biased opinion of a few on the forum behind
you will get a better idea

the aerial  brush might be 2 x the price of the extreme brush
but its more than 10 x the value
in my own opinion

Alex i dont have to justify anything, i had a gardiners DT Mono, i didnt like it so i bought the aerial brush, which i really like, my brother needed a new brush and he went for the xtreme brush, so to get free postage i said i would have on too, for £20 its worth a go,  like i have said already on more than one occasion, there is nothing wrong with how the brush cleans, my problem was with how the brush was wearing after only a week of work.

Alex gardiners has been more than helpful i resolving the issue, I have been the only person on here that has had this problem, so that goes to show that there must be a problem with my brush, gardiners are sending me a replacement form the first batch they had made.

If there is a problem with this brush i will be posting on here my experience, but due to the reputation, the feedback and the after sales help that gardiners give, i am more than confident that the next brush will be fine.

You come on here saying how rubbish gardiners brushes are at cleaning, when 9 out of 10 people probably use them and say how good they are, and think everybody else is biased.

Also what would be the point of showing the brush to customers and friend? what they know about window cleaning, i could show them a bayersan pole and an slx, they would probably say the bayersan pole is better because its a fraction of the price.

You really need to start thinking about what you are saying, because everyone will think you are talking rubbish when one day you might actually have something helpful to say.

See that last sentence, that is what I mean, ok alex does a bit of gardiners bashing, and should really just stick to recommending what he likes without the bashing. but if you read some of his posts and ignore the bad bits he makes some very valid points on the brush he recommends.

I am a fan of viking mono ovals, and that arial brush looks very much the same to me except better due the extra splay and length of bristles, I might have to buy one in fact it covers most of the bases I look for in a brush. and I didn't even know about until this thread.

but I agree it would be better if alex didn't hijack threads to promote other suppliers, and it would be better if he did reviews or whatever on the things he likes and why, that would be more helpful to everyone.

But then again everyone slates brodex. and ironics and nobody gets upset at them, so If gardiners get a bit of stick isn't it just the same thing?

I like Gardiners by the way, I just haven''t tried any of their brushes so I can't comment on them.

peace all

thanks stu mac

stu mac has answered for me lee
forums are a place to complain also

my opinion on this brush subject
is both judgement and integrity are in question
won't it be more honest to say
the superlight is a cheap brush and i have no choice to pay £45
because i can't get it anywhere else?
and cant the seller say its not worth my time selling it for £15

if you like the brush, thats great
but dont make it out to be something it isnt
you brought it, can't you leave the marketing crap to one side
for those who have never succumb to it

[Alex Allen]

Doe that mean it's 10 times the rip off than the Gardiners?

not quit sure what you mean
a friend of mine has an account with vikan
and i know got their brushes for about £9 unjetted
vikan are very good quality for what they are

i would guess superlights cost no more than £5 and £8 jetted
so thats nearly 600% mark up if you pay £45

the aerial brush i could'nt begin to tell you how much it cost
you dont see similar brushes anywhere not even in the shops
hill brush advertise a high quality resin set brush in C&M for about £45
and its not a wfp brush and has not jets or other parts

so who's being ripped off?
nobody maybe if the brush has made you tens times more than you piad for it
but thats not the point, is it

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Doe that mean it's 10 times the rip off than the Gardiners?

not quit sure what you mean
a friend of mine has an account with vikan
and i know got their brushes for about £9 unjetted
vikan are very good quality for what they are

i would guess superlights cost no more than £5 and £8 jetted
so thats nearly 600% mark up if you pay £45

the aerial brush i could'nt begin to tell you how much it cost
you dont see similar brushes anywhere not even in the shops
hill brush advertise a high quality resin set brush in C&M for about £45
and its not a wfp brush and has not jets or other parts

so who's being ripped off?
nobody maybe if the brush has made you tens times more than you piad for it
but thats not the point, is it

You really are very naive Ewan.

How many brushes do you think Vikan manufacture in a year compared to Gardiners?

A super-lite will cost Far more than any Vikan to have manufactured.

Stop embarrassing yourself man!

[dave0123]

a friend of mine has an account with vikan
and i know got their brushes for about £9 unjetted

Says it all there 9 quid unjetted aparently your "mate" can get it for so probably making it for about £1-£2 for a vikan brush as they will get millions made at once

[Alex Gardiner]

Doe that mean it's 10 times the rip off than the Gardiners?

not quit sure what you mean
a friend of mine has an account with vikan
and i know got their brushes for about £9 unjetted
vikan are very good quality for what they are

i would guess superlights cost no more than £5 and £8 jetted
so thats nearly 600% mark up if you pay £45

the aerial brush i could'nt begin to tell you how much it cost
you dont see similar brushes anywhere not even in the shops
hill brush advertise a high quality resin set brush in C&M for about £45
and its not a wfp brush and has not jets or other parts

so who's being ripped off?
nobody maybe if the brush has made you tens times more than you piad for it
but thats not the point, is it

You would guess wrong then Alex.  The Super-Lites are bespoke made moulded stock brushes manufactured exclusively for us by one of the UK's finest industrial brush manufacturers.  They cost us far more to buy in than we can buy Vikan brushes from Vikan direct.  None of the Super-Lite brushes are £45.  The most expensive is £29.95 jetted with socket, Y piece and tubing - you cannot include VAT or shipping (unless you use our free shipping of course) in the margin amount.  We would never be able to run a business selling just our brushes as the profit margins are just not that good.

[dave0123]

Looking at gardiners website now the superlite extreme says "currently not available" anyone no what that is? if it was out of stock then that's what it would say i presume?