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Poll

what techniques do you use?

frames every time with fan jets on glass
8.8%
7 (8.8%)
frames every time with fan jets off glass
10%
8 (10%)
frames every time with pencil jets on glass
25%
20 (25%)
frames every time with pencil jets off glass
33.8%
27 (33.8%)
dont do frames with pencil jets on glass
5%
4 (5%)
dont do frames with pencil jets off glass
15%
12 (15%)
dont do frames with fan jets off glass
1.3%
1 (1.3%)
dont do frames with fan jets on glass
1.3%
1 (1.3%)

Total Members Voted: 67

Voting closed: February 22, 2011, 07:00:01 pm

david thomas

  • Posts: 257
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 03:47:40 pm »
if im cleaning a first clean i always clean the frames inclu the top frame.once their clean though i usually just give the top frame  a once over every other clean(upper windows) but clean the sides of the frame.again the ground floor windows get the same treatment.the top frames dont get that dirty once their clean so IMO dont need cleaning every time its wasting time unless you can see the dirt.
anyone who never cleans the top frame is a cowboy IMO IF YOUR USING THE POLE GET IT CLEANED FIRST TIME THEN I QUICK SCRUB AND RINSE EVERY OTHER CLEAN!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D


not cleaning the top frames EVER looks bad especially if the rest of the frame is nice and clean.the only acception would be certain types of wooden frames but all plastic frames should be cleaned as a matter of course.

some of you have the cheek to ask for £15 for a small 3 bed semi then dont clean all the frame? ::) ::) ::)

rip off merchants who deserve to lose some work!!giving wfp a bad name in some areas.thats my view anyway.

I do the same totaly agree with the above

regards


dazmond

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 03:52:07 pm »
if im cleaning a first clean i always clean the frames inclu the top frame.once their clean though i usually just give the top frame  a once over every other clean(upper windows) but clean the sides of the frame.again the ground floor windows get the same treatment.the top frames dont get that dirty once their clean so IMO dont need cleaning every time its wasting time unless you can see the dirt.


anyone who never cleans the top frame is a cowboy IMO IF YOUR USING THE POLE GET IT CLEANED FIRST TIME THEN I QUICK SCRUB AND RINSE EVERY OTHER CLEAN!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D


not cleaning the top frames EVER looks bad especially if the rest of the frame is nice and clean.the only acception would be certain types of wooden frames but all plastic frames should be cleaned as a matter of course.

some of you have the cheek to ask for £15 for a small 3 bed semi then dont clean all the frame? ::) ::) ::)

rip off merchants who deserve to lose some work!!giving wfp a bad name in some areas.thats my view anyway.



regards


dazmond
Well said,some people on here  talk so much crap ,imagine cleaning glass  and not the frames,no wonder WFP has a bad name due to cowboys who think there professional ::)

windolene

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 04:00:28 pm »
I never understood this ???
The frames are part of the window,leaving the frames I would expect from cowboy window cleaners,you either do the job properly or not at all ::)
Do you guys have no shame.

Hi,

Same here,  I am traditionial & always clean frames with a wipe over if needed.

Kevin WINDOLENE.


Kevin Windolene.

dai

  • Posts: 3503
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 04:08:36 pm »
Fine if your getting £15 for a 3 bed semi, but round here they think your too expensive if you ask for £7.00. They get what ever they are prepared to pay for, it's as simple as that.

Small but perfectley formed

  • Posts: 1747
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2011, 04:31:47 pm »
Whats talking crap about only cleaning what you get paid to clean,
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
 In the area i clean they think £5 is a fortune ,ex mining village unemployment above 50% the rest retired on pit pensions .
Spit and polish

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2011, 04:32:32 pm »
i don't agree, certainly with uPVC frames and WFP the time doing or not doing frames is almost unmeasurable,
but the difference in quality of job and customer service is huge !

i finish a house and all the windows and frame shine, sad git that i am i walk away proud of my work.

going that little further than the competition can and will lead to better and more customers

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

james44

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2011, 04:39:33 pm »
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going that little further than the competition can and will lead to better and more customers

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2011, 04:44:19 pm »
Remember the frame is  part of a window,I don't see any houses that have windows with no frames,I always clean frames and sills as standard,for those that don't clean frames I regard as GLASS CLEANERS and not WINDOW CLEANERS 
Take some pride in your work :P

Small but perfectley formed

  • Posts: 1747
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2011, 04:50:13 pm »
Would you clean a 3 bed standard house frames and glass for £5 ?
Spit and polish

james44

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2011, 04:58:10 pm »
There`s no excuse for poor quality work!

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2011, 05:04:13 pm »
I second that!

james44

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2011, 05:04:42 pm »
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Whats talking crap about only cleaning what you get paid to clean,
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
In the area i clean they think £5 is a fortune ,ex mining village unemployment above 50% the rest retired on pit pensions .

Jason how often do you clean those houses?

♠Winp®oClean♠

  • Posts: 4085
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2011, 05:29:13 pm »
I'm a glass cleaner & proud! ;D

In & out, perfect results, no slower on first cleans! ;)

You'll not find any back posts from me regarding any problems with spots etc. ;)

Each to their own.

One up for the GLASS cleaners around here ;D

Small but perfectley formed

  • Posts: 1747
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2011, 06:29:34 pm »
i have appprox 450 fortnightly and 400 monthly so i dont think the work is poor quality like i keep saying they get exactley what they pay for .
Spit and polish

james44

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2011, 06:37:25 pm »
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i have appprox 450 fortnightly and 400 monthly so i dont think the work is poor quality like i keep saying they get exactley what they pay for .

Jason you need to change your cleaning frequency!

imo fortnightly cleaning will always be that of low paying customers.

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2011, 06:39:22 pm »
so 1 window and door at the front 2 at the back - for £5 quid  - stop cutting corners and clean them frames  :P

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Small but perfectley formed

  • Posts: 1747
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2011, 06:41:25 pm »
The customers want fortnightly,also the window stay clean so you can clean very fast.
James how long have you been cleaning windows ,how many customers you got.
Spit and polish

james44

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2011, 06:47:58 pm »
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James how long have you been cleaning windows ,how many customers you got.

8+ years   300+

Sean Dyer

  • Posts: 2947
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2011, 06:53:33 pm »
this thread is going off topic

I think that i wil clean the frames when i am paid extra to do so end of, no customer has ever expected any different, never will

As for wfp technique i dont think i have one, i havent done enough of it to know whether ive done good or bad, i scrub and rinse quite alot and so probably dont benefit from the speed side like some of you, but find it hard to trust doing a quick job ??

Getting  a bigger system in next 4 weeks though so maybe with a MUCH higher flow rate i can be alot quicker!!

james44

Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2011, 06:59:22 pm »
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I think that i wil clean the frames when i am paid extra to do so end of, no customer has ever expected any different, never will

So how did you sell wfp to your customers then sean?