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Poll

what techniques do you use?

frames every time with fan jets on glass
8.8%
7 (8.8%)
frames every time with fan jets off glass
10%
8 (10%)
frames every time with pencil jets on glass
25%
20 (25%)
frames every time with pencil jets off glass
33.8%
27 (33.8%)
dont do frames with pencil jets on glass
5%
4 (5%)
dont do frames with pencil jets off glass
15%
12 (15%)
dont do frames with fan jets off glass
1.3%
1 (1.3%)
dont do frames with fan jets on glass
1.3%
1 (1.3%)

Total Members Voted: 67

Voting closed: February 22, 2011, 07:00:01 pm

ronnie paton

  • Posts: 3245
techniques for reach and wash
« on: February 12, 2011, 07:00:01 pm »
i would like to know how you clean the windows and videos would be a massive help.

i feel im to fussy and my employees sruggle to take on how i like it to be done.

i know ill get slated but i dont do the top bar/frame always found it causes problems which in turns means you have to detail and be careful.

so come on tell me how you clean and videos if you have......im after perfecting my technique

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 07:02:53 pm »
Nothing wrong in trying to perfect your technical and look at alternatives.

been WFP over 18 months and still do a tweak here and there.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Jeff Brimble

  • Posts: 4347
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 07:42:18 pm »
I  get double £ for doing frames, glass only saves water and money.


♠Winp®oClean♠

  • Posts: 4085
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 08:01:50 pm »
I don't  do top frames either, been doing it this way for 7 years.

A square brush, not too splayed helps. The new super-lite 0 degree is perfect. ;)

Jeff Brimble

  • Posts: 4347
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 08:08:08 pm »
Ronnie,
Well like all techniques you need practice, but I can now clean in the dark  8)
Careful- not really the frame edges get done every time as the bristles overlap but with a splay brush you can get right to the top of the glass and sides.


Gav Camm lammy 283

  • Posts: 7520
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 09:40:59 pm »
type in the electric window cleaner ron
jeff normally as a few vids on
the job he did in sheffield 89ft is on there  ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Small but perfectley formed

  • Posts: 1747
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 08:51:05 am »
We also only do glass only, as the customers dont want to pay extra
Spit and polish

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 11:51:05 am »
I never understood this ???
The frames are part of the window,leaving the frames I would expect from cowboy window cleaners,you either do the job properly or not at all ::)
Do you guys have no shame.

♠Winp®oClean♠

  • Posts: 4085
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 12:25:30 pm »
I never understood this ???
The frames are part of the window,leaving the frames I would expect from cowboy window cleaners,you either do the job properly or not at all ::)
Do you guys have no shame.

IMO it was born from the wfp operator, desperate to convince the client of any & every benefit possible in an attempt to convince them of the method.

Never had a complaint or request to clean the top frame in 7 years wfp. ;)

Reality & what is thrown around on here are TWO completely different things! ;) Learn this & you are free. :D

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 12:54:28 pm »
I do see this method and a really dirty frame on top looks awful let alone dirty frames surrounding the windows,I think windows that have their frames cleaned stand out better,I could never sleep at night just doing the glass but thats my opinion.

Lee GLS

  • Posts: 3844
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 01:18:24 pm »
I do see this method and a really dirty frame on top looks awful let alone dirty frames surrounding the windows,I think windows that have their frames cleaned stand out better,I could never sleep at night just doing the glass but thats my opinion.


Another example of a fool on this website talking out of their bottom.

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 01:49:57 pm »
Says the bloke that can't even get his van payload right ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 2192
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 02:17:11 pm »
just converted to fan jets hense my fanjet off glass vote i barely lift tyhe brush off the glass about a inch and wash down double sweep on the top pane and follow down with swirl effect

Lee GLS

  • Posts: 3844
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 02:33:24 pm »
Says the bloke that can't even get his van payload right ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Oh, have you weighed my van then slash?

dai

  • Posts: 3503
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2011, 02:36:01 pm »
Most of the time I skip the top of the frame, sometimes if they get really manky I bite the bullet and do them.
The problem ones are the ones with vents in the top frame, you could scrub these all day and still get dirty drips.
I did a little experiment the other day using both the superlite and Ariel brushes, both these brushes get right into the corners even with half the brush on the frame. Knowing this will speed me up considerably as I usually do the pane and frame separately.

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 02:59:23 pm »
I beg to differ, altho 4 wky clean does not always require the frame to be washed i do it as a matter of course
and i find this eliminates any dirty drips after washing - even with vents, take the time to fully clean 1st time
round and followings cleans are quick and easy - i have only ever got dirty drips when firing water right up
inside the vent - keep the brush at the correct angle as this will not happen.

it's each to their own and what the job allows - mine are priced for frames, sills and glass wether trad or WFP

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 03:26:35 pm »
if im cleaning a first clean i always clean the frames inclu the top frame.once their clean though i usually just give the top frame  a once over every other clean(upper windows) but clean the sides of the frame.again the ground floor windows get the same treatment.the top frames dont get that dirty once their clean so IMO dont need cleaning every time its wasting time unless you can see the dirt.


anyone who never cleans the top frame is a cowboy IMO IF YOUR USING THE POLE GET IT CLEANED FIRST TIME THEN I QUICK SCRUB AND RINSE EVERY OTHER CLEAN!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D


not cleaning the top frames EVER looks bad especially if the rest of the frame is nice and clean.the only acception would be certain types of wooden frames but all plastic frames should be cleaned as a matter of course.

some of you have the cheek to ask for £15 for a small 3 bed semi then dont clean all the frame? ::) ::) ::)

rip off merchants who deserve to lose some work!!giving wfp a bad name in some areas.thats my view anyway.



regards


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Small but perfectley formed

  • Posts: 1747
Re: techniques for reach and wash
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 03:37:23 pm »
Glass only because they only want to pay for that, get it! :o
Spit and polish