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Nathanael Jones

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2010, 04:17:59 pm »
Nice one Peter. :)

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2010, 04:42:11 pm »
OK I tested the water flow and the heater will work reliably at 0.75 Litres per minute.  It will work with less flow than that but not reliably. 

I shouldn't think anyone would use a flow less than the 0.75 but if they did they could use Nat''s washer idea.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Thanks for that Peter.

I also apologise for my earlier posts, they appear quite aggressive, think I got a little too hot under the collar! :-[

Count Phil

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2010, 04:45:44 pm »
Hang on. Have you tested that on a few jobs at that flow rate?

It's just that the L5 used to fire on a low flow rate and then change its mind half way through a house and cut out.

It firing at .75 a minute doesn't mean it will continuously through a job.

dave0123

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2010, 05:09:47 pm »
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Interesting question Dave. How many hours can you work with your 250L.  And how much of the 2L does it take to clean an average house window?

I dont really no to be fair peter but it doesnt last to long after first cleans i would say around 5 hours i THINK i spend about 1 min per window for me like the one below i suppose thats classed as slow but i can't seemt to go faster than that without knowing the window is fully clean
Dave.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #84 on: December 13, 2010, 05:59:14 pm »
OK I tested the water flow and the heater will work reliably at 0.75 Litres per minute.  It will work with less flow than that but not reliably. 

I shouldn't think anyone would use a flow less than the 0.75 but if they did they could use Nat''s washer idea.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Thanks for that Peter.

I also apologise for my earlier posts, they appear quite aggressive, think I got a little too hot under the collar! :-[

No problem, but I didn't take them to be aggressive.  I am used to far worse than that.

Phil, No I haven't but surely at 1 lpm the heater would run without any problems as its quite a bit over the 0.75 LPM.


Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #85 on: December 13, 2010, 06:32:51 pm »
Hang on. Have you tested that on a few jobs at that flow rate?

It's just that the L5 used to fire on a low flow rate and then change its mind half way through a house and cut out.

It firing at .75 a minute doesn't mean it will continuously through a job.

Surely you don't use less than 1LPM?
 
I wonder what the lowest flow rate anyone uses would be.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Dave Willis

Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #86 on: December 13, 2010, 06:41:00 pm »
My pump does 6L per minute flat out. 1L would be very low indeed.

Nick_Thompson

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #87 on: December 13, 2010, 06:48:57 pm »
Peter

I think you will find that Jeff Brimble uses half to two thirds of a litres a min.
Do quantum mechanics fix old transits?

And let us not forget, voyeurism is an occupational hazard that we simply must endure.

mci services

Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #88 on: December 13, 2010, 06:51:26 pm »
Peter

I think you will find that Jeff Brimble uses half to two thirds of a litres a min.

yes but he is an exception on the whole I would think.

Nick_Thompson

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #89 on: December 13, 2010, 07:01:00 pm »
Call me excessive, but I prefer three to four litres a minute.

 Would that flow rate allow the water to heat up enough?
Do quantum mechanics fix old transits?

And let us not forget, voyeurism is an occupational hazard that we simply must endure.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2010, 07:06:25 pm »
Peter

I think you will find that Jeff Brimble uses half to two thirds of a litres a min.

Yes I did think of Jeff when I was asking the question.  And yes it would heat the water no problem at that flow rate.

Peter

dave0123

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #91 on: December 13, 2010, 07:09:13 pm »
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Call me excessive, but I prefer three to four litres a minute

Does the water not spash all over the glass frames at that amount
Dave.

Count Phil

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2010, 07:10:52 pm »
I use more than .75 a minute. /Just saying, the L5 tricks you. Just thought it would need longer testing at the low flow to make sure.

Nick_Thompson

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #93 on: December 13, 2010, 07:16:16 pm »
Dave

NO, I use 3 mm jets. No splash back whatsoever.
Do quantum mechanics fix old transits?

And let us not forget, voyeurism is an occupational hazard that we simply must endure.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2010, 12:01:25 am »
I don't know if anyone is interested but I have a relativly cheap flue avalable that attaches to the top of the heater and the exhaust can be directed to wherever is suitable.  The cost is £11 plus £3.50 delivery plus vat, Total cost £17.00  If anyone is interested I can put some on ebay.

Peter

Nathanael Jones

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2010, 08:30:34 am »
I don't know if anyone is interested but I have a relativly cheap flue avalable that attaches to the top of the heater and the exhaust can be directed to wherever is suitable.  The cost is £11 plus £3.50 delivery plus vat, Total cost £17.00  If anyone is interested I can put some on ebay.

Peter

Sounds very good. Any photo's?

ian1972

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2010, 01:45:47 pm »
Hi is ther a pic of this flu?

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2010, 08:40:51 pm »
I just listed one on ebay with pics and details.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120660540081

Peter

monkeyboy950

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #98 on: December 14, 2010, 08:58:48 pm »
I just listed one on ebay with pics and details.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120660540081

Peter

is there any more of the actuall heaters left??

Notice all 10 have been sold

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2010, 09:06:24 pm »
Yes I have plenty left, there is still one left from the batch of ten.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com